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Offlineshroomskill
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crazy substrate
    #3615216 - 01/12/05 12:18 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

you know what i always thought would make for crazy good mushrooms, is wormwood mixed in with the substrate, thats the root that they make absinthe out of, that halluginogenic alcohol. ANybody think it would be a good idea providing you could somehow get your greasy little paws on some wormwood root?


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Re: crazy substrate [Re: shroomskill]
    #3615830 - 01/12/05 02:07 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I don't think it's very hard to get woodworm, there are also other plants commonly found all over that contain dmt, it would be interesting to see the results. But I can't see the result being what I'm imagining


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Re: crazy substrate [Re: funkymonk]
    #3622993 - 01/13/05 01:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'd be careful with that. Awhile back I was researching absinthe and I could have swore that wormwood can be a poison if not handled right. I don't really think it would work anyway.


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Re: crazy substrate [Re: ymhrswrider]
    #3626296 - 01/14/05 01:46 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

yeah...wormwood is or can be bad stuff...don't remember which somebody oughta go check out the lycaeum or erowid or something...i'm bein lazy...i seem to remember the term "neurotoxin" though...


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Re: crazy substrate [Re: ChrisHippyLoser]
    #3626701 - 01/14/05 03:13 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The parts of the wormwood plant that are used to make absinthe are the leaves and the flowers, not the root.

The active component of wormwood is thujone, but it is not very psychoactive by itself. The fabled "secondary effects" of absinthe are probably a combination of the effects of all the herbs plus the ethanol.

Also is questionable whether the mycelia would even "eat" the wormwood.

In any case, it would make more sense to use a much stronger psychoactive herb, like cannabis.


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Re: crazy substrate [Re: shroomskill]
    #10563307 - 06/24/09 06:23 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I am interested in this experiment only because I have a ton of wormwood and I'm really not interested in using it all, it didn't cost anything to me as it was free (vendor clearing backstock) but its finely powdered and conveniant. My question is would it be suitable for a grain-lover, wood-lover or both?

In any case I will report the progress in a a few months.


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Re: crazy substrate [Re: sonar]
    #10563490 - 06/24/09 08:22 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Negative. Mushrooms don't 'soak up' stuff like plants do - mycelium breaks down it's food at a molecular level and then absorbs the nutrients.

Personally, I would just home brew some absinthe with it if you're into that sort of thing.


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Re: crazy substrate [Re: Brennus]
    #10563535 - 06/24/09 08:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Brennus said:
Negative. Mushrooms don't 'soak up' stuff like plants do - mycelium breaks down it's food at a molecular level and then absorbs the nutrients.

Personally, I would just home brew some absinthe with it if you're into that sort of thing.




I have made wormwood resin but I really don't like the compound (no offense to it, but it has too many unknown unknowns). I probably won't want to home brew absinthe, my liver needs a holiday to get out of the drink beer in the evening almost daily routine. Not interested at all if it's molecules are sucked up, I just don't want to use the remaining powder so I may aswell 'recycle' it.


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Re: crazy substrate [Re: sonar]
    #10563552 - 06/24/09 09:01 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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sonar said:
I have made wormwood resin but I really don't like the compound (no offense to it, but it has too many unknown unknowns). I probably won't want to home brew absinthe, my liver needs a holiday to get out of the drink beer in the evening almost daily routine. Not interested at all if it's molecules are sucked up, I just don't want to use the remaining powder so I may aswell 'recycle' it.




:shrug:

Home brewing absinthe is likely a terrible idea, regardless.

Or is it..? :strokebeard:


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Re: crazy substrate [Re: Brennus]
    #10573527 - 06/25/09 10:50 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

> Negative. Mushrooms don't 'soak up' stuff like plants do

Well in fact that's exactly what they do.  They secrete enzymes to break down their substrate so they can soak it up.  They do this much moreso than plants and they are well known for uptaking and transporting all manner of molecules from the substrate.

That said... why not just steam distill the wormwood, possibly then fractionate it and add it to some sort of mushroom extraction.  If you don't have the gear I'm sure you can find a member here who would be happy to distill off as much woormwood as you can produce.  It's pretty common in the US, but a lot of people don't have the energy to go out an collect it.


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Re: crazy substrate [Re: fastfred]
    #10644224 - 07/08/09 11:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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fastfred said:
Well in fact that's exactly what they do.  They secrete enzymes to break down their substrate so they can soak it up.




That means that mushrooms digest their food, unlike plants which simply absorb water and nutrients from the soil.


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Re: crazy substrate [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
    #10645188 - 07/09/09 02:01 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

how about on reese puffs?
i would eat my spawn with milk.


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