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OfflineZirus666
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Looking to break through.... lvl5-beyond, advice please :)
    #3614609 - 01/11/05 10:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Sup :smile: i`m looking for a lil advice from the people who have been to the most extreems of shrooms and have wanted to go back or have....

Ok, first off i`d like to say ive tripped to lvl3, oceons of colour about 15-25 times, i see faces, many many faces, ive followed them inside them through vortex eyes of geometric colour closed eye (I prefere closed eye, its more in the vein of where i want to go...)

In may i`ll finaly have the house to myself (I will have a sitter of course) so I can finaly break through the psychedelic threshold as rick strassman puts it "Breaking through the veil of colours" into the point i consider where psychedelucs are ment to be used for, theyre maximum effect, the "other".

So, i`m after advice, trip reports of the most extreem of extreems, ive read some trip reports from here and other sources but have only found one or two that seem to be this extreem, from what I can gather the rest are lvl 4`s, talking 3d entitys in the real world, not a shift into a completely new reality, the real world dissolved and no longer seen...

Has anyone here been to the lvl im trying to describe?
What did you do to set your mental state before hand?
and most importantly, do/did you want to do back?

Also, should I goto lvl 4 first before going to the maximum I can?
See entitys, experiance first things/entitys talking to me?
I have had no auditory effects yet....

I`ve only lvl3`d, im totaly comfortable there now, but it was very hard to start with, my first few trips were scary, now I feel no fear of having my reality changed with visuals/oceons of colour and when I started seeing faces they never scared me....
But moving into a totaly new reality does scare me, I think i wouldn`t be human if it didnt but i don`1t fear the trip itself, if that makes any sence....

I feel an overwhelming extreemly powerfull urge to do this though, its something I must do, i just want to make sure i do it right, the safest and the most sensible way possible.

How did those that have do it and set themselves up for it?

cheers :smile:

P.S. Supanova if your hear id like advice from you especialy, I read the trip report where you extracted from what most see as an insane amount of shrooms, very enlightening, breaking the veil of colours out into space and the universe, like ive read in in some DMT reports in rick strassmans book :smile:


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Re: Looking to break through.... lvl5-beyond, advice please :) [Re: Zirus666]
    #3614850 - 01/11/05 11:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You'll never see all you can see. Set the intent - dose quality. 5g. Leave the sitter downstairs. Turn off the lights. See what happens. Dont be disappointed if you dont see what you expect.


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Re: Looking to break through.... lvl5-beyond, advice please :) [Re: headset]
    #3614875 - 01/11/05 11:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If you are looking for something beyond level 5, then I have just the thing for you!!









Death.


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Re: Looking to break through.... lvl5-beyond, advice please :) [Re: blink]
    #3614980 - 01/11/05 11:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

5g of good cubes should do the trick. You seem to really want to, so maybe you're ready to, but don't disappointed if you don't quite get there. You say your prefer CEV, that's good because that's all your gonna have if you break through. There's really no advice anyone can give you though, the experience is way beyond words and cant be completely described. Just remember whatever happens, whatever you may uncover, go with it. Also, no matter how ready you might think you are. Your not. Hopefully all will go well though. Good luck.


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Re: Looking to break through.... lvl5-beyond, advice please :) [Re: Zirus666]
    #3615012 - 01/11/05 11:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Just go for it, 5 gr's. Ride the wave into the beyond. btw Happy B'day. :popcorn: :jester:


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Re: Looking to break through.... lvl5-beyond, advice please :) [Re: JaRRn]
    #3615168 - 01/12/05 12:12 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

5g? thats not even 2 boxes of cubies (30g fresh each, 3g dryed) I was looking to do 10 boxes of coplandia, thats 100g fresh.
When i do it, I dont want something as silly as the dose being too small being why i dont get there heh :smile:Thx for the happy bday man :laugh:

Blinkidiot, completely melting into everything, the everything not being reality but the new dimsion itself, complete and total reality change, no self, no nothing just an existance with everything else is what a lvl 5 is (at max lvl) and nothing less, death is mearly the same :wink:

Trainwreck, ya im trying not to set myself up to expect something, but then again I am expecting to reach the maximum lvl possible... heh... maybe I should just eat a kilo of fresh copelanida, theyre cheap as shit right niow, would save any chance of the experiance being anything less than the max :smile:

Should I lvl 4 first though?
Experiance entitys talking to me in the real world b4 going to this extreem?


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Re: Looking to break through.... lvl5-beyond, advice please :) [Re: Zirus666]
    #3615635 - 01/12/05 01:17 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Well, death is close.

It is more wonderous than you can possibly imagine. Forget all your silly, bullshit notions of going to another place. There is only one place bro. We are always there. Its like why would you fly through yourself on a plane to get to yourself. I can say the experience you are going to have will be that reality is one. No matter what I say, there is no way you could comprehend without going there.

Oh yeah, and chill out on the ten boxes of cyans. Try two, hell you should be able to do it with one box. It seems that you have set a limit for yourself. Open your mind, and new things will come.


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Re: Looking to break through.... lvl5-beyond, advice please :) [Re: mecreateme]
    #3615709 - 01/12/05 01:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Cyans and liberty caps always do it.


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Re: Looking to break through.... lvl5-beyond, advice please :) [Re: Somaism]
    #3615722 - 01/12/05 01:38 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

From what I've read by veteran trippers on these forums, the best way to achieve a level 5 or higher levels is to have the right mindset, not necessarily increase dosage. Is this a fair assessment? Or does dosage have more to do with it than I realize?


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Re: Looking to break through.... lvl5-beyond, advice please :) [Re: GatorB]
    #3615893 - 01/12/05 02:27 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You can reach ego loss even on low doses.

Set and setting are what make any experience.


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Re: Looking to break through.... lvl5-beyond, advice please :) [Re: Somaism]
    #3616193 - 01/12/05 03:29 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

somaism speaks the truth


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Re: Looking to break through.... lvl5-beyond, advice please :) [Re: fresh313]
    #3616226 - 01/12/05 03:35 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

just do a few hits of Salvia :|


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Re: Looking to break through.... lvl5-beyond, advice please :) [Re: Somaism]
    #3617283 - 01/12/05 11:51 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Somaism said:
You can reach ego loss even on low doses.

Set and setting are what make any experience.




Ok, but are you also saying you can get entitys speacking to you on a low dose? because this I doubt and seeing 3 dimensional entitys open eye on a low dose i also doubt....

Fuck salvia lol, I hate that stuff.


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Re: Looking to break through.... lvl5-beyond, advice please :) [Re: Zirus666]
    #3617458 - 01/12/05 12:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

look a little further down on the trip tip page to the thread "is this lvl 5?let me know!"and read my last post.
100g fresh copelandia is overkill.i hit level 5 on 30g fresh copes.sounds like you've been reading the post by this guy "cadam".he claims to have eaten 120g fresh copes and had a level 3.BULLSHIT!!only if he had been eating shrooms everyday for a week before he dosed the 120g copes..he would have puked if he had a 1/4pound of shrooms in him.
5g dried cubensis should get you close if not there.might want to wait about 2 or 3months since the last time you tripped so tolerance wont be an issue.i'd do 5.5g just to be sure .i'm gonna be the first to tell you this."LEVEL 5 IS NOT FUN" . prepare yourself for destruction.


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Re: Looking to break through.... lvl5-beyond, advice please :) [Re: skullfarmer1979]
    #3617578 - 01/12/05 01:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ok ill take a read cheers :smile:

Saying lvl5 isnt fun is alittle subjective though isnt it?
I mean it comes down to how you handle it at the end of the day like any lvl..... surly.


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Re: Looking to break through.... lvl5-beyond, advice please :) [Re: Zirus666]
    #3618072 - 01/12/05 03:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

No not really.
It is more terrifying, as most people can't handle the fact that there is nothing to do, nowhere to go. We are it all, everything is one, you have heard it before. Everything we do is a futile attempt to amuse ourselves and we have all the time in the world.
It has always been this way. When you see that fun and not fun are not real, you will know. It is beyond your mental map, at this moment, to comprehend. It is the most familiar feeling in the world, in fact, it will remind you of everything you have ever felt before. I think the first line of my sig deals with how people react to IT.


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Re: Looking to break through.... lvl5-beyond, advice please :) [Re: mecreateme]
    #3618133 - 01/12/05 03:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Hmm ok, have you been to this degree on another psychedelic, was it the same or?


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Re: Looking to break through.... lvl5-beyond, advice please :) [Re: skullfarmer1979]
    #3618137 - 01/12/05 03:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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100g fresh copelandia is overkill.i hit level 5 on 30g fresh copes.sounds like you've been reading the post by this guy "cadam".he claims to have eaten 120g fresh copes and had a level 3.BULLSHIT!!only if he had been eating shrooms everyday for a week before he dosed the 120g copes..he would have puked if he had a 1/4pound of shrooms in him.




I have to say I have regularly eaten 100 - 150g (wet) cubes, probably the most was 190g.  Not Copelandia though.  But Skullfarmer is right, it is overkill, and only necessary if you trip more than once a week.
The strongest shroom only trip I've done is 90g with a 2 week clean period beforehand.  Brilliant visuals!  Really intense.
If you really want to experience level 5, do some shrooms, say 50g (5g dry), then do some salvia 5x about 3 hours in.  Hold it in for as long as you can, and have someone there, because it is scary!  Not bad or evil, just very different from the perceived world.  No connection to reality whatsoever.
Happy trails!!
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Re: Looking to break through.... lvl5-beyond, advice please :) [Re: Loosifa]
    #3618146 - 01/12/05 03:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I dont like salvia at all heh, its uncomfortable and not a nice feeling :undecided:

I`ll try 20g copes then I guess, maybe 25g if everyone considers eating a massive amount overkill....


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Re: Looking to break through.... lvl5-beyond, advice please :) [Re: Loosifa]
    #3618228 - 01/12/05 03:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Can you not see anything at level 5? Is it kinda like being asleep and dreaming about nothing? Can you still see things around you? Can you still feel your body?


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