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 psilocybinjunkie
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 spawing dung 
#361405 - 07/26/01 01:37 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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How moist should dung be when its been ininoculated with pf-cakes?Slighty moist, wet, really wet?
Please help thanks!
Note: I have already posted this in the cult forum but I posted it here in advanced because I thought I could get better answers here If this not in the right place then by all means delete it.
thanks again for any help...
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Tryp'er
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Some what dry, although straight dung work well, it works better if it has some thing to help airate it. Because it compacts as it asorbs moisture. Straw works the best, but one could use any thing as in vermiculite ,coco fiber ect.
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humplok9
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Re: spawing dung [Re: Tryp'er]
#362481 - 07/28/01 11:33 AM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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where could i get dung to do this?
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egghead
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Re: spawing dung [Re: humplok9]
#362490 - 07/28/01 11:56 AM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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humplok.. FOAF has had luck w/ store bought stuff. Just make sure you buy organic or it will most likely have been paseurized in or treated with fungicides.
You don't want the stuff too moist. If you let it drip dry overnight in a pillow sac, the moisture should be about right. You're trying to get about the same relative moisture content as you would have in a brf cake or grain jar.
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humplok9
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Re: spawing dung [Re: egghead]
#362649 - 07/28/01 07:13 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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so i just let it hang in a pillow sack hagging overnight, then mix it with some verm and spawn with a couple of cakes?? would i get nice fruits or no?
any tips from anybody who did this?
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dioze1
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Egghead is right about the moisture content. Use the standard squeeze test to determine moisture. Your dung will be fine if you get it a little too moist.
I have never found the need to add Verm or anything else to my dung---just use straight dung.
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psilocybinjunkie
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Re: spawing dung [Re: dioze1]
#364437 - 07/31/01 10:54 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks everyone.
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 BrownPastures
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The moisture content of ALL casings and/or spawned substrates (what ever they might be) should have the same water consistency as a "proper" PF cake.
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Carlos
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Re: spawing dung [Re: dioze1]
#365230 - 08/02/01 12:48 AM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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Is there a tek for spawning dung? (turd tek? heh heh).
Does one pasteurize dung, or just go with it right out of the bag?
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dinoalien
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hello all.. a couple of questions on this topic.
I've read that unless you compost the dung you will have some troubles...but from what i'm reading here..it's not necessary to do this..??
and...ditto on the pasteurization question... thanks
dinoalien
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dioze1
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Re: spawing dung [Re: dinoalien]
#365639 - 08/02/01 02:10 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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To answer these questions.........
No, dung does NOT have to be composted. I have, and do, use it when it is still pretty fresh.
No it doesn't have to be paseurized befor use. Although, it may be wise. It will help get rid of bugs and unwanted mycelium that may already in habit the manure.
Bonus answer......
One does not have to sterilize dung. Infact, it can cause more harm than good.
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BrownPastures
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Re: spawing dung [Re: dioze1]
#365992 - 08/02/01 10:54 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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That's a good point. Sterilizing manure/dung does more harm than good. There are micro-organisms that you want to stay alive in your dung. Sterilizing dung makes a nutritious substrate (which is very prone to contams when sterilized) out in the open. You can call it a "Sizzler for Contaminants".
BUT- you can pressure cook dung when using it for spawn.This is good for any and all of your "friends" but especialy good for the pan trops and pan cyans.
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