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Convert Jews, Christians to Islam, Saudi Cleric says. (Even better then Killing them)
    #3613049 - 01/11/05 04:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

http://www.aina.org/news/2005011111955.htm

i guess this is what you call a Moderate Muslim.


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Re: Convert Jews, Christians to Islam, Saudi Cleric says. (Even better then Killing them) [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3613106 - 01/11/05 04:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

They don't allow moderates to become muftis and state imams. Sorry, but this thread is basically a moon bat flying out of a cannon that says "Shoots moon bats".


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Re: Convert Jews, Christians to Islam, Saudi Cleric says. (Even better then Killing them) [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3613489 - 01/11/05 05:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Jerusalem -- It is better to convert Jews and Christians to Islam than to kill them, Saudi Cleric 'Aed Al-Qarni said on Saudi Iqra television on Sunday. "The Prophet Muhammad, as is said in the Hadith, sent Ali to the Jews -- to the Jews, the brothers of apes and pigs -- to fight them," Al-Qarni said, according to a translation provided by the Middle East Media Research Institute on Tuesday. "Ali, being so brave and daring, thought he was sent to behead them. The Prophet Muhammad told him that it was better to guide them to the righteous path than to kill them... By Allah, if you guide a Jew or a Christian to the righteous path it is better than slaughtering one or two thousand of them on the battlefield," he said. Islam considers all non-Muslims to be infidels.





Could this be political double speak? The cleric is basically saying not to kill Jews and Christians. Maybe the cleric is a closet apostate and is just playing along with it.


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Re: Convert Jews, Christians to Islam, Saudi Cleric says. (Even better then Killing them) [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3613581 - 01/11/05 06:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Here's an idea:
Renounce all your religions and we won't have a religious separation problem!


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Re: Convert Jews, Christians to Islam, Saudi Cleric says. (Even better then Killing them) [Re: DNKYD]
    #3613602 - 01/11/05 06:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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DNKYD said:
Here's an idea:
Renounce all your religions and we won't have a religious separation problem!




Again you show your lack of education. Apostacy is punishable by death in Islamic countries (under Sharia law). I don't know if they do this in Turkey (which is secular), but they will give apostates the death penalty in Saudi Arabia.


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Re: Convert Jews, Christians to Islam, Saudi Cleric says. (Even better then Killing them) [Re: Great_Satan]
    #3613640 - 01/11/05 06:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Well that right there is fucked up. You can't change your religion or you will be killed? They have some fucked up ideas going on over there.

Religion! Saves the day again!


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Re: Convert Jews, Christians to Islam, Saudi Cleric says. (Even better then Killing them) [Re: DNKYD]
    #3613697 - 01/11/05 06:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Well that right there is fucked up. You can't change your religion or you will be killed? They have some fucked up ideas going on over there.

Religion! Saves the day again!




Islam is the only major religion that is that way.


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Re: Convert Jews, Christians to Islam, Saudi Cleric says. (Even better then Killing them) [Re: Great_Satan]
    #3613712 - 01/11/05 06:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Doesn't mean that every other religion isn't fucked beyond logic and reason.


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Re: Convert Jews, Christians to Islam, Saudi Cleric says. (Even better then Killing them) [Re: DNKYD]
    #3613842 - 01/11/05 07:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Doesn't mean that every other religion isn't fucked beyond logic and reason.




A defining characteristic of all religions.  Nyaah, nyaah, nyah, nyah, nyaah,  my imaginary best friend is better than yours so thpfffft :ass:


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Re: Convert Jews, Christians to Islam, Saudi Cleric says. (Even better then Killing them) [Re: DNKYD]
    #3614043 - 01/11/05 08:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Christianity has a had just as bad a past. but Christianity has evolved. sometimes i think Islam is still in the 11Th or 12Th century.


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Re: Convert Jews, Christians to Islam, Saudi Cleric says. (Even better then Killing them) [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3615277 - 01/12/05 12:24 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Consider Islam is the worlds youngest religion. You're statement is not very bright. It would be easier to just say Islam is still in the 14th century.


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Re: Convert Jews, Christians to Islam, Saudi Cleric says. (Even better then Killing them) [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3615517 - 01/12/05 12:56 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

wow ane coulter said we should convet muslims to christianit...guess this is what happens when u conservatives battle conservatives


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Re: Convert Jews, Christians to Islam, Saudi Cleric says. (Even better then Killing them) [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3615587 - 01/12/05 01:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Conservatives suffer from ego mania.


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Re: Convert Jews, Christians to Islam, Saudi Cleric says. (Even better then Killing them) [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3615601 - 01/12/05 01:10 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Conservatives suffer from ego mania.



As opposed to liberals who seem to think they know better what to do with an individual's money than the individual.


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Re: Convert Jews, Christians to Islam, Saudi Cleric says. (Even better then Killing them) [Re: z@z.com]
    #3615813 - 01/12/05 02:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You ought to privatize that attitude, young buck.


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Re: Convert Jews, Christians to Islam, Saudi Cleric says. (Even better then Killing them) [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3615894 - 01/12/05 02:28 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

With all this talk about liberals and conservatives, christians and muslims, why don't we start talking about all the SANE people?


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Re: Convert Jews, Christians to Islam, Saudi Cleric says. (Even better then Killing them) [Re: DNKYD]
    #3616152 - 01/12/05 03:22 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You'll have to define insane.


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Re: Convert Jews, Christians to Islam, Saudi Cleric says. (Even better then Killing them) [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3617051 - 01/12/05 10:09 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Islam is not the world's youngest religion. There are probably new religions arising every year somewhere.

But leaving the fringe ones aside, there's always the Mormon Church, otherwise known as the Church of Latter Day Saints. For many years Mormonism was the fastest growing religion in the world (in terms of percentage increase) and for all I know may still be.


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Re: Convert Jews, Christians to Islam, Saudi Cleric says. (Even better then Killing them) [Re: Phred]
    #3617118 - 01/12/05 10:38 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

> there's always the Mormon Church

There is also $cientology, only around 50 years old... more of a cult than a religion in my book, but the followers (and there are a lot of them) would disagree.


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Re: Convert Jews, Christians to Islam, Saudi Cleric says. (Even better then Killing them) [Re: Seuss]
    #3617212 - 01/12/05 11:22 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)


There is also $cientology

My aunt was a member of that "church" for a while. They took all of her money and would make her listen to weird tapes and shit. They were very cult-like. My uncle went in one day to find her because it was like she was being held hostage or something. This bodyguard dude got in the way of my uncle and said, "you can't come in". My uncle said, "Get the fuck out of my way." and went and got my aunt. I guess she is a Hindu of some type now.


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