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OfflineMixomatosis
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Where do you end? Where do you begin?? WHERE??? WHY???
    #3610527 - 01/11/05 01:04 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

The cool thing about fungi is that the mycelium leaks enzymes into its environment to allow wood, poo, and other things to break down into a digestible form.

If we were like that we might spit onto our food and the enzymes in our spit would break down the food until we could absorb it without using a stomach. The outside world would be our stomach! YAY!

So let's go back to the mushroom.. pretty much any fungus is going to have a symbiotic relationship with something else.. maybe a fungus, maybe tree roots, whatever. Let's say it's another fungus. One fungus is named Dwayne, the other is Maxine. They both live on a log, and they both release their enzymes at the same time. Dwayne can turn the wood into chunky debris, Maxine can turn the chunks into sawdust, and then Dwayne's second enzyme turns the chunks into a digestible paste, and boom, both fungi eat. Teamwork!

But the neat thing is that Dwayne's stomach was outside of his body, as was Maxine's, and because they both digested food for eachother they both lent eachother their stomachs!

But they didn't just borrow eachother's stomachs. That wood took a long time to get to them. Termites ate the tree until it got blown down by the wind, and then the rain softened it up so the fungi could get a foot hold. All those steps were Dwayne and Maxine's stomachs at work!

You see, your stomach is actually as big as.. THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE!!! OH MY GOD!!!!!

Lichen breaks down those rocks, makes soil, a moss moves in and turns that soil into something you can eat! The moss is one of your stomach enzymes! Not only that, but YOU ARE EATING DIRT!!!! HOOOOORAY!!!

DIRT AND CONDENSED SUNLIGHT!!!! WHEEEEEEE


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Re: Where do you end? Where do you begin?? WHERE??? WHY??? [Re: Mixomatosis]
    #3610713 - 01/11/05 01:53 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i dont really know whether to think of that as a rally cool way to explain why the universe revolves around mushrooms or if you really just have way to much time on your hands...
i think both
that was great man!
keep up the good work!!
love and light and lots of dirt to eat!!!


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i am the spit on the hair of the son of an electron, swimming around the nucleus of a cell inside the sperm of a killer bee, and my purpose is as nebulous as why weve been bestowed with the capacity to give a shit" Brandon Boyd



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Re: Where do you end? Where do you begin?? WHERE??? WHY??? [Re: incubaby_421]
    #3611099 - 01/11/05 03:11 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

great hammer of Thor.!


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Re: Where do you end? Where do you begin?? WHERE??? WHY??? [Re: Zekebomb]
    #3611713 - 01/11/05 10:03 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Where do you end? Where do you begin?? WHERE??? WHY???

You end, where you begin, where you do, because; You begin, where you end.  :nut:

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Re: Where do you end? Where do you begin?? WHERE??? WHY??? [Re: Gomp]
    #3611739 - 01/11/05 10:13 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

A very interesting question is: "where is your consciousness located?"

The more plausible materialist theories of mind claim that consciousness is a function of your brain, but where do these thoughts exist? Thoughts arguably have extension into space with neurons etc, but we also experience them as mental events, which cannot be pinned down to a physical location.

It's a very difficult problem. If you are going to say that thoughts exist in some sort of mental space, then you have to wonder how this space is causally linked to physical space.

Anyway, just further confusing the issue of where we begin and end.


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Re: Where do you end? Where do you begin?? WHERE??? WHY??? [Re: deafpanda]
    #3611887 - 01/11/05 11:17 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

If i search i cannot find anything which i can lable as concioussness. Theyre doesnt seem to be anythin i can pin down and say 'this is concioussness'.

Of course we can speculate, but what would be the point.

Thoughts appear and die into emptiness. Just the manifestations of the nature of mind.


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Re: Where do you end? Where do you begin?? WHERE??? WHY??? [Re: Sinbad]
    #3612268 - 01/11/05 01:20 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Sinbad said:
Of course we can speculate, but what would be the point.





you're right. speculation is utterly pointless. I hereby declare that I will never speculate again, on the grounds that it has no point.


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Re: Where do you end? Where do you begin?? WHERE??? WHY??? [Re: deafpanda]
    #3612681 - 01/11/05 02:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Consciousness is "in your brain" but really the brain isn't a closed system. Blood that goes through the entire body visits the brain, carrying food that was digested by the stomach but came from the outside. The greater nervous system network the brain is a main part of goes all throughout the body, so though it might be centralized in your head, the brain doesn't end. It visits every part of your body and has doors to the outside world through breath, digestion, visual input etc. Your brain is everywhere, so your consciousness isn't exactly located.


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Re: Where do you end? Where do you begin?? WHERE??? WHY??? [Re: Mixomatosis]
    #3612777 - 01/11/05 03:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

"we are each a unique instance of the same set of infinity"

? :laugh:


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Re: Where do you end? Where do you begin?? WHERE??? WHY??? [Re: Mixomatosis]
    #3614224 - 01/11/05 08:50 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I read a really interesting essay/article while visiting my sister in Arizona. She was a philosophy major and she happened to toss me one of her articles that she kept, which was a hypothesized account of a man whose brain is removed, but through miracles of science is able to stay connected (via receiver or something) to his body. It ponders a lot of 'where am I?' type shit. I'll see if I can find it, but if anyone else knows what I'm talking about please find it before me =D. A line of thinking that is fairly common in buddhism is 'who is thinking these thoughts?' Although at first, seemingly easy: 'duh me,' most of us here at the shroomery seem to think a little deeper than that. Good luck and happy pondering!


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Black eyed angels swimming with me
Moon full of stars and astral cars, all the figures I used to see
All my lovers were there with me
All my past and all my futures
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There was nothing to fear and nothing to doubt


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Re: Where do you end? Where do you begin?? WHERE??? WHY??? [Re: Mixomatosis]
    #3614396 - 01/11/05 09:23 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

"we are all made of stars" :wink:


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Re: Where do you end? Where do you begin?? WHERE??? WHY??? [Re: trendal]
    #3615890 - 01/12/05 02:24 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

"we are all made of stars"

and lumps of gangrenous maggot-ridden flesh too! But whatever makes you sleep at night pal...


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Re: Where do you end? Where do you begin?? WHERE??? WHY??? [Re: Mixomatosis]
    #3616368 - 01/12/05 04:10 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

man, so I am constantly drinking Hitler's piss and jizz? that's fuckin gross. he was a BAD man. (he was a vegetarian, though)


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