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OfflineJJdubble
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peroxide question?
    #3609628 - 01/10/05 09:35 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

ok so ppl tell me that peroxide is great for keepin things sterile...and i also hear that it loses its extra oxygen molecule and then turns to water.
how long does this process take?
and what causes it to change?
also...whats the best ratio to use it at?


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Re: peroxide question? [Re: JJdubble]
    #3609732 - 01/10/05 10:00 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

it's more for keeping things clean, it doesnt actualy keep it sterile.
as for the period it takes to break down... only 3 days when exposed to
the atmosphere... capped in the bottle, a few weeks to months


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Re: peroxide question? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3609809 - 01/10/05 10:19 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Light breaks it down pretty quickly too. That's why it's in a dark bottle.

Most people here mix 1 part of 3% peroxide to 9 parts of water. That gives you .3%.

At that concentration it kills many spores, bacteria, and other such critters. Here's a bonus. Mycelium like it. They have the means to turn it into O2 and H2O, so they get a cool drink and a breath of fresh air. Just keep it away from your spores.


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Re: peroxide question? [Re: ticktock]
    #3610412 - 01/11/05 12:34 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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ticktock said:
Light breaks it down pretty quickly too. That's why it's in a dark bottle.

Most people here mix 1 part of 3% peroxide to 9 parts of water. That gives you .3%.

At that concentration it kills many spores, bacteria, and other such critters. Here's a bonus. Mycelium like it. They have the means to turn it into O2 and H2O, so they get a cool drink and a breath of fresh air. Just keep it away from your spores.



hmmm...ok..i heard that it kinda shocks mycelium a little...are u sure they like it?


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Re: peroxide question? [Re: ticktock]
    #3611395 - 01/11/05 05:10 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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ticktock said:
Light breaks it down pretty quickly too. That's why it's in a dark bottle.





mine comes in a white bottle that light can penetrate.
i get it from chemical outlet, i doubt them to sell products that they
wouldnt consider stored in a good container.
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Re: peroxide question? [Re: ohmatic]
    #3611469 - 01/11/05 06:05 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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ohmatic said:
Quote:

ticktock said:
Light breaks it down pretty quickly too. That's why it's in a dark bottle.





mine comes in a white bottle that air can penetrate.
i get it from chemical outlet, i doubt them to sell products that they
wouldnt consider stored in a good container.
peace ohm :mushroom2:



holy shit!...how can air penetrate the bottle?
that wouldn;t make a very good bottle IMO.


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Re: peroxide question? [Re: JJdubble]
    #3611470 - 01/11/05 06:08 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

JJdubble said:
Quote:

ohmatic said:
Quote:

ticktock said:
Light breaks it down pretty quickly too. That's why it's in a dark bottle.





mine comes in a white bottle that air can penetrate.
i get it from chemical outlet, i doubt them to sell products that they
wouldnt consider stored in a good container.
peace ohm :mushroom2:



holy shit!...how can air penetrate the bottle?
that wouldn;t make a very good bottle IMO.




lol i was meant to write LIGHT !!!
ill edit the post, heh, sorry for that :wink:
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Re: peroxide question? [Re: ohmatic]
    #3611475 - 01/11/05 06:16 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

well...when u get the bottle...is the peroxide filled to the top?
cause how can it lose the molecule if there is no place to lose it to....mabye i am just retarded...but if there is no air in the bottle than i wouldn;t think its possible.
but that would mean that when u open it and use some...the peroxide left in there wouldn;t stay h2o2 with the presence of air...and light through the sides.
hmmmm...i guess it wouldn;t matter too much...but i have never seen a peroxide bottle that didn;t keep the light out.


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Re: peroxide question? [Re: JJdubble]
    #3611647 - 01/11/05 09:17 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

ticktock was right on the ratio... when i use peroxide, it's in a 9 parts water, 1 part 3% h2o2 ratio. works great for your water in your perlite/hydroton/geolite/expanded clay at the bottom of your PMP.

it takes only a few days... 3-7 for it to break down... i've had things bubble in my perlite when i haven't added perlite in a week...

light, exposure to air, and of course having an organic that it can oxidize all cause it to break down into o2 and h2o.


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Re: peroxide question? [Re: ZeroArmy27]
    #3611707 - 01/11/05 09:58 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

So the only thing you should use a peroxide solution for is the terrarium?


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Re: peroxide question? [Re: bad_boy_blue]
    #3611726 - 01/11/05 10:08 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

what do you mean for the terranium? It is commonly used for misting, some people put it in their humidifiers. Basically most places you use water, people add H2O2. Dunking a PF cake for instance.


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Re: peroxide question? [Re: bad_boy_blue]
    #3611772 - 01/11/05 10:26 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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So the only thing you should use a peroxide solution for is the terrarium?




No not just the terrarium .
Some add it to agar mixes , to aide in reduction of contams (for those who have this problem), some use it in mister bottles , some use it to clean tools (not so good IMO). Peroxide has a wide range of uses in all aspects of life , is good for mush teks due to is not harmfull to myc , but nasties hate it . When out of glooves , I soak my hands in it , and scrub under finger nails to add to keeping hands clean before handleing sterile items .


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Re: peroxide question? [Re: tripndicular]
    #3612404 - 01/11/05 01:47 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I've never seen H202 in a bottle that light can get through..just because its white doesnt mean light can get through it. Just the same with the white plastic jugs that milk comes in, is it lke that? Not the clear ones but the WHITE ones? Light doesnt penetrate those...

If light does penetrate your h202 bottle STOP buying it from that place. www.h2o2.com


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Re: peroxide question? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3612451 - 01/11/05 01:56 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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I've never seen H202 in a bottle that light can get through..just because its white doesn't mean light can get through it. Just the same with the white plastic jugs that milk comes in, is it lke that? Not the clear ones but the WHITE ones? Light doesnt penetrate those...

If light does penetrate your h202 bottle STOP buying it from that place. www.h2o2.com




HUH ?????????
I was not part of that BS
Depends on what and why I am buying h202 for .
For rocket fuels I get it at a chemical supply house 30% only way to get it that strong , and it comes in very thick plastic that is black .
For home use and mushies , get it at any pharmacy , grocery store , and it comes in brown plastic bottles .
I do not think peroxide comes in any other colored bottles , and should not be stored in clear or even slightly opached bottles .


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Re: peroxide question? [Re: tripndicular]
    #3612663 - 01/11/05 02:37 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I always just use the quick reply (unless using the quote button) which automatically replies to the last post....sorry..that comment was directed at the person who said they buy it in white bottles.


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Re: peroxide question? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3612760 - 01/11/05 02:58 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

To elaborate... UV light (UV blocking plastic can be white) (Injection molding wroker)


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Re: peroxide question? [Re: LaughingJim]
    #3613301 - 01/11/05 05:01 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

i use peroxide w/ h2o when i dunk my cakes -- with decent sized flushes


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Re: peroxide question? [Re: JJdubble]
    #3613876 - 01/11/05 07:23 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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hmmm...ok..i heard that it kinda shocks mycelium a little...are u sure they like it?




Pretty damn sure. Want to see some extreme use of peroxide for mushroom cultivation? Hold onto something and click this.


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Re: peroxide question? [Re: ticktock]
    #3613918 - 01/11/05 07:34 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

hmmm..... :mad: links not working


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Re: peroxide question? [Re: PsycAura]
    #3613945 - 01/11/05 07:40 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Fine. The site went down right after I posted. Try again. It's worth it. Your eyebrows might not come down again this week.


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