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OfflineBrAiN
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    #3609437 - 01/10/05 08:56 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Is fucking evil bullshit. I think the only reason microsoft came out with it was to make us even more confused and for the developers to keep their jobs, by making us conform to something we don't need, but they make everyone think that we DO


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Re: .NET [Re: BrAiN]
    #3609523 - 01/10/05 09:12 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

M$ has been pulling the plug on .NET and PassPort for awhile now. here's an excerpt from a recent Slashdot discussion concerning eBay's decision to drop PassPort (he said it better than I):

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The worst thing about Passport and the related .Net services was that MS intended not only to store a username and password, but store ALL user information. Participating sites would then have free access to the information they contributed to the system, but would have to pay for anything else. Also, using the entire .Net portfolio would have made it simple for web developers to build a system with a "secure" passport logon and user database, but VERY difficult to obtain control over their own data. Microsoft, on the other hand, would have complete access to all user data regardless of source. They could have become the gatekeeper, the only company with control over user data, and everyone else paying them for data mining rights in their own data. We should be VERY thankful that it didn't take off.

In retrospect, Microsoft made a bunch of mistakes:

1) The whole thing got muddled in the general confusion of .Net.

2) Most other web companies actually valued control of their user data more than ease of development.

3) No user demand for single sign-on, either because users don't care, or because they actually value their privacy and don't want different websites to share user data.





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Re: .NET [Re: debianlinux]
    #3609658 - 01/10/05 09:42 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

are they pulling out on .NET as a programming language or just the passport services?


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Re: .NET [Re: blink]
    #3609670 - 01/10/05 09:45 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

The success or failure of the passport service has no ramifications for the future of .NET
In my (not so) humble opinion, .NET is an outstanding achievement and is greatly beneficial to the developer and to the end-user and I am confident it will succeed greatly.


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Re: .NET [Re: yewhew]
    #3609855 - 01/10/05 10:31 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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In my (not so) humble opinion, .NET is an outstanding achievement and is greatly beneficial to the developer and to the end-user and I am confident it will succeed greatly.




Anyone who hates .NET has never used its IDE.

Plus BrAiN is a Mac user so he doesn't know what he's talking about. :smile2:

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Re: .NET [Re: Ythan]
    #3610855 - 01/11/05 02:17 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Ythan said:
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In my (not so) humble opinion, .NET is an outstanding achievement and is greatly beneficial to the developer and to the end-user and I am confident it will succeed greatly.




Anyone who hates .NET has never used its IDE.

Plus BrAiN is a Mac user so he doesn't know what he's talking about. :smile2:

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Lick my balls. Half of what I use my laptop for is to RDP to a window server. Haha. I just think the whole .NET thing is destroying the basis for Visual Basic. VB was called visual BASIC for a reason... It was written for lazy assholes like me that didn't want to deal with a lot of explicit and low level bullshit. .Net is forcing us lazy VB programmers and C programmers into one giant mulato bastard child now. Pretty soon there will be no Perl.. no VB.. no C++, no C#, no SQL, no Microsoft... no Mac.. It'll just be Bill.. I have seen the future... and it is just a hologram of Bill Gates implanted into every home by force of law... watching our every move... ready to electrocute us if we try to do something the traditional way instead of Big Brother's way..

RAA!!!!

Oh wait... wrong meeting


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Re: .NET [Re: BrAiN]
    #3622311 - 01/13/05 05:34 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

.NET sucks because it is owned by MS go with the GPL SNU alternatives like mono if you want somthing like .NET


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Re: .NET [Re: AhronZombi]
    #3622971 - 01/13/05 01:06 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

If I had a choice I would have stuck with perl/cgi.. but you go where the money is...


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Re: .NET [Re: BrAiN]
    #3623341 - 01/13/05 02:52 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Did I misunderstand your post or are you actually implying that "the money" is in Visual Basic development?

Excuse me for one moment...

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Okay now back to your regularly scheduled thread.

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Re: .NET [Re: Ythan]
    #3623797 - 01/13/05 04:52 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

uhhh yea I am. don't believe me? Go to monster.com.. pick any metro area.. and do a search for keywords "VISUAL BASIC". The avg salary for a .NET programmer with about 5-7 years under his belt is a good 70k. That's not too bad.


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