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Court Won't Block KKK From Highway Cleanup
    #3607747 - 01/10/05 12:55 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050110/ap_on_go_su_co/scotus_klan_highways


Court Won't Block KKK From Highway Cleanup

2 hours, 46 minutes ago

By GINA HOLLAND, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Missouri lost a Supreme Court appeal Monday over its decision to bar a Ku Klux Klan group from a highway litter cleanup program.

The court's rejection, made without comment, means that the KKK chapter must be allowed into Missouri's Adopt-A-Highway program, which is designed to save money by using volunteers for garbage pickup. Volunteer groups are publicly thanked with signs along the highway acknowledging their help.

Every state but Vermont has such a program. States supporting Missouri in the appeal argued that the Supreme Court needed to intervene so that states unwilling to partner with the KKK would not decide to abolish their programs.

The dispute involves a half-mile stretch of Missouri 21 near Potosi, a town of fewer than 3,000 in the eastern part of the state.

A KKK chapter sought permission to pick up trash along the road, but was turned down because the program is not open to groups that discriminate based on race or those that courts have said have a history of violence.

Missouri lawyers had argued that a sign marking the KKK stretch of road could lead to more dumping, and could endanger highway workers mistaken for Klan members.

The Klan sued and won on grounds that it had a First Amendment free speech right to participate.

In its appeal, Missouri attorney Erwin O. Switzer III said state leaders are "trying to avoid giving motorists the mistaken impression that the state has anything good to say about a horrific, racist group."

He argued that the case was about government speech, not speech of the group.

Robert Herman of St. Louis, the attorney for the KKK, said that the group wants to do its part in community service and to express "solidarity with the community."

The 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals (news - web sites) had ruled that Missouri's "desire to exclude controversial organizations in order to prevent 'road rage' or public backlash on the highways against the adopters' unpopular beliefs is simply not a legitimate governmental interest that would support the enactment of speech-abridging regulations."

Texas Solicitor General R. Ted Cruz, who filed a brief on behalf of 10 states that backed Missouri, said that states unwilling to partner with the KKK may "forgo the economic benefits of having volunteers pick up tons of roadside trash each year." The 10 states are Alabama, Arkansas, Hawaii, Illinois, Kansas, Maryland, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Texas and Vermont.

The case is Rahn v. Robb, 04-629.

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Re: Court Won't Block KKK From Highway Cleanup [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3607867 - 01/10/05 01:26 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

As much as I dislike what the KKK stands for, as long as they are not breaking any laws they deserve the same freedoms and protections that the rest of us enjoy.


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Re: Court Won't Block KKK From Highway Cleanup [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3607877 - 01/10/05 01:30 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

They can't legally block them...


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Re: Court Won't Block KKK From Highway Cleanup [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3608179 - 01/10/05 02:42 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

*awaits the inevitable "white trash" joke.




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Re: Court Won't Block KKK From Highway Cleanup [Re: Phred]
    #3608316 - 01/10/05 03:07 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Some white dude ripped one of their signs out of the ground on that highway about 6 years ago but then he tripped and rolled down a hill. Then a local radio station payed for his bail and attorney bills cause they all fucking hate the KKK.


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Re: Court Won't Block KKK From Highway Cleanup [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3608899 - 01/10/05 04:52 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

It's a shame such organizations like the KKK are even allowed to exist.


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Re: Court Won't Block KKK From Highway Cleanup [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3608934 - 01/10/05 04:59 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Good they can let them cleanup..so now we can drive by and throw more trash for them to pick up or yell stuff out the window at em.


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Re: Court Won't Block KKK From Highway Cleanup [Re: Nickatina]
    #3609143 - 01/10/05 05:48 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

let them clean it up, and rename it to MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. HWY.


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Re: Court Won't Block KKK From Highway Cleanup [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3609171 - 01/10/05 05:56 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

if they clean it up... who cares.. they are just getting the publicity they want, you are giving them more power

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Re: Court Won't Block KKK From Highway Cleanup [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3609320 - 01/10/05 06:30 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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zahudulallah said:
It's a shame such organizations like the KKK are even allowed to exist.




thats one of the few reasons I like america, because they dont discriminate when allowing discrimination.

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Re: Court Won't Block KKK From Highway Cleanup [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3609341 - 01/10/05 06:35 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

That's really just pushing the envelope. Originally they allowed racism in order to maintain a duality with the Soviet Union and the communist revolutions which denied that racism existed under communist and socialist rule.


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Re: Court Won't Block KKK From Highway Cleanup [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3609364 - 01/10/05 06:39 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

their just hatefull hillbillys let em have thier highway lol...


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Re: Court Won't Block KKK From Highway Cleanup [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3609386 - 01/10/05 06:44 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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zahudulallah said:
That's really just pushing the envelope. Originally they allowed racism in order to maintain a duality with the Soviet Union and the communist revolutions which denied that racism existed under communist and socialist rule.




Well that's certainly interesting considering that racism has existed for several millenia preceding the emergence of the Soviet Union.


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Re: Court Won't Block KKK From Highway Cleanup [Re: zappaisgod]
    #3609390 - 01/10/05 06:46 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

there will alwase be hateful rasists which is stupid but there will be even more normal ppl.


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Re: Court Won't Block KKK From Highway Cleanup [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3609414 - 01/10/05 06:52 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I thought we just didn't want to be snottly little douchebags like France where swastikas are illegal.


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Re: Court Won't Block KKK From Highway Cleanup [Re: Seuss]
    #3609419 - 01/10/05 06:53 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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Seuss said:
As much as I dislike what the KKK stands for, as long as they are not breaking any laws they deserve the same freedoms and protections that the rest of us enjoy.




Exactly. :thumbup:

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Re: Court Won't Block KKK From Highway Cleanup [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #3609429 - 01/10/05 06:55 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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Baby_Hitler said:
I thought we just didn't want to be snottly little douchebags like France where swastikas are illegal.




lol good point.


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Re: Court Won't Block KKK From Highway Cleanup [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3609446 - 01/10/05 06:58 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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zahudulallah said:
That's really just pushing the envelope. Originally they allowed racism in order to maintain a duality with the Soviet Union and the communist revolutions which denied that racism existed under communist and socialist rule.




there isnt any allowing, it exists. it's a right given to us by god, not by man
read through muslim, hebrew and christian history, god said it was cool to be a
racist killing machine which is why jews are racist hate mongers just like christians and muslims

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Re: Court Won't Block KKK From Highway Cleanup [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #3609456 - 01/10/05 07:00 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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I thought we just didn't want to be snottly little douchebags like France where swastikas are illegal.




A member of the Nazi Party cannot run for political office in the US, I believe
it also holds true for the comunits party.

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Re: Court Won't Block KKK From Highway Cleanup [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3609745 - 01/10/05 08:03 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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A member of the Nazi Party cannot run for political office in the US, I believe
it also holds true for the comunits party.



I'm not sure I buy that. I know the communist party runs canidates in the US.

http://www.cpusa.org/


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