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So I ate 4.5 grams of aborts and now I have questions...
    #3607188 - 01/10/05 11:09 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Can somone explain to me the detailed inner workings of aborts. I ate 4.5 grams about 7 months ago and I didn't think I was EVER coming down. I had a very strong trip (strongest shroom trip ever, and I've eaten more than 4.5 grams before) and I continued to have anxiety for a while afterwards. Of course I don't really have questions about that really. My questions are:

Why are they so much more potent? Or is it all in my head?
If they are so much more potent then why do people let shrooms mature at all?

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Re: So I ate 4.5 grams of aborts and now I have questions... [Re: bf6]
    #3607293 - 01/10/05 12:01 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

They are more potent, but not more so than a full grown shroom. Overall the weight of a mature shroom will get you higher than one tiny abort. Its just not logical to pick at abort stage, the loss would be to high.

As far as why on the potentcy i am not sure, I am sure someone smarter like anno or others could fill you in with more facts.


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Re: So I ate 4.5 grams of aborts and now I have questions... [Re: Ramlaen]
    #3607451 - 01/10/05 01:28 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

i thought that aborts actually stopped growing, so you had no choice but to pick it.

my theory is that when shrooms are initially growing, more psilocibin is present, maybe because if something was to damage or eat it, not only is it going to get fucked up, but the bruisings will be blue/black and might keep consumers away.

anyway back to the aborts, they have more psilocibin/gram present during this stage for my THEORIZED idea above, hence 4.5 grams of aborts would contain the same as up to 10 grams of full grown shrooms. MY .02 cents... sorry if this makes no sense, i am really really baked.


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Re: So I ate 4.5 grams of aborts and now I have questions... [Re: bf6]
    #3607479 - 01/10/05 01:38 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

3.5g of aborts fucked me so hard unlike any other shroom trip.... Ive taken much higher doses then that and nothing even comes close to the sheer intensity of that trip.


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Re: So I ate 4.5 grams of aborts and now I have questions... [Re: bf6]
    #3607495 - 01/10/05 01:44 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Per weight aborts are more potent than a full grown mushroom.
When I was still growing, I would only allow a few mushrooms to reach maturity (for spore prints) and would pick the others once they reached about 2 inches in length.
This is because more pcilocin is produced during the earlier stages of growth. If the mushrooms continue to grow, three things will happen.

1) they will taste worse the larger they get
2) they will decrease in potency per weight
3) they will use up nutrients and water that could go to creating more little mushrooms


I miss having quality mushrooms on demand :frown:


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Re: So I ate 4.5 grams of aborts and now I have questions... [Re: baraka]
    #3607602 - 01/10/05 02:19 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

baraka said:
3.5g of aborts fucked me so hard unlike any other shroom trip.... Ive taken much higher doses then that and nothing even comes close to the sheer intensity of that trip.




I can't even begin to describe the insanity on my trip... I was in a catatonic fetal position for hours.

Back on Topic: So there really isn't a reason to let shrooms mature eh?


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Re: So I ate 4.5 grams of aborts and now I have questions... [Re: jux]
    #3607604 - 01/10/05 02:19 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

thats a good idea, if i ever attempt growing i may do that
5 shrooms bro


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Re: So I ate 4.5 grams of aborts and now I have questions... [Re: bf6]
    #3607677 - 01/10/05 02:38 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

1 gram of aborts kicked my ass. don't take aborts lightly or you will find yourself fucked.


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Re: So I ate 4.5 grams of aborts and now I have questions... [Re: jux]
    #3607854 - 01/10/05 03:22 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

>This is because more pcilocin is produced during the earlier stages of growth.

Can you point me to some research that verifies this?


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Re: So I ate 4.5 grams of aborts and now I have questions... [Re: Anno]
    #3608613 - 01/10/05 05:50 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Is this a fresh abort that you speak of because one gram wouldn't be much if fresh.


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Re: So I ate 4.5 grams of aborts and now I have questions... [Re: bf6]
    #3608682 - 01/10/05 06:05 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

A couple years ago I read a personal account (I Believe it was from fanaticus himself) that vehemently claimed the increase of potency in aborts compared with "normal" specimens. As Anno implies, I don't think there has been ANY real research done on this. I don't think Stamets even comments on aborts at all in regard to psilocybin mushrooms, but I could be mistaken.


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Re: So I ate 4.5 grams of aborts and now I have questions... [Re: InnerBeing]
    #3608810 - 01/10/05 06:32 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Is this a fresh abort that you speak of because one gram wouldn't be much if fresh.




1 gram dry aborts.


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Re: So I ate 4.5 grams of aborts and now I have questions... [Re: baraka]
    #3610965 - 01/11/05 02:37 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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3.5g of aborts fucked me so hard unlike any other shroom trip.... Ive taken much higher doses then that and nothing even comes close to the sheer intensity of that trip.





is that wet weight ?


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Re: So I ate 4.5 grams of aborts and now I have questions... [Re: JaRRn]
    #3611063 - 01/11/05 02:59 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

he means dry weight


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Re: So I ate 4.5 grams of aborts and now I have questions... [Re: stefan]
    #3611106 - 01/11/05 03:13 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Think about it...
40 little aborts could weigh the same as 2 mature mushrooms.
Suppose they each weigh in at 2 grams, the abort dose has 40 SHROOMS !! :smile: while the other dose only has 2.


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Re: So I ate 4.5 grams of aborts and now I have questions... [Re: stefan]
    #3611658 - 01/11/05 09:25 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah they were dry aborts. 4.5 grams of them.

So I'm still wondering what the point of letting shrooms mature would be... Other than a better gauge to measure dosage I can't see a benefit in letting them mature??

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Re: So I ate 4.5 grams of aborts and now I have questions... [Re: bf6]
    #3611709 - 01/11/05 10:00 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

>Suppose they each weigh in at 2 grams, the abort dose has 40 SHROOMS !! while the
>other dose only has 2.

So what is the point?
If you eat one pound of tiny apples, or one pound of big apples, what will make you fuller? The first, the later, or none?

I am still waiting for someone to provide me a link to a piece of paper that will either confirm or dismiss the theory that aborts are more potent by weight.


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Re: So I ate 4.5 grams of aborts and now I have questions... [Re: Anno]
    #3611717 - 01/11/05 10:04 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Have you ever eaten aborts? I guess once you go so deep into the rabbit hole it's hard to determine how hard your tripping.

All I can say is that I ate some from the same batch and nothing compared to the aborts. :shrug:

Then again it could all be in the mind.


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Re: So I ate 4.5 grams of aborts and now I have questions... [Re: bf6]
    #3611731 - 01/11/05 10:09 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, I have.
No difference for me.


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Re: So I ate 4.5 grams of aborts and now I have questions... [Re: Anno]
    #3611735 - 01/11/05 10:11 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Really? Interesting.

I might try again someday at a lower dose and see if anything happens.

...It's all in the mind...

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