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Re: Any Professional Chefs out there? [Re: Raadt]
    #2135922 - 11/25/03 07:32 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

you just have to work smart, not hard.


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Re: Any Professional Chefs out there? [Re: soochi]
    #2140320 - 11/27/03 01:00 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

a chef instructors favorite quote. lol.


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Re: Any Professional Chefs out there? [Re: Raadt]
    #2141549 - 11/28/03 01:21 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Wow...thanks for the input. Thought this thread died a while ago.

As someone else said, I would much rather enjoy what I do, no matter the income. Right now, sitting in front of a computer coding my life away doesnt sound that great, but working with my hands in a restaurant sounds much better. I might even go into the Navy, become a cook on a ship, and go around the world.


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Re: Any Professional Chefs out there? [Re: ChopperDave]
    #2143305 - 11/28/03 10:13 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

"I might even go into the Navy, become a cook on a ship, and go around the world."

Actually  a lot of the chef instructors at my school have done exactly that. It'll also provide money for college.

Good luck and see on the line :grin:



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Re: Any Professional Chefs out there? [Re: eve69]
    #2146957 - 11/30/03 02:53 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Is it possible that the problems you have encuntered have been regional and not universal?


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Re: Any Professional Chefs out there? [Re: soochi]
    #2147191 - 11/30/03 04:02 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

No guessing required, soochi, you attend Johnson & Wales College.
I know because I've been there as a student too.

I majored in CA in high school and got solid A's, learned a lot, love to cook, so I went on to become a hotel chef, BUT....

After 2 trimesters, I soon realized that if I went on to do what I love SOOO much for a living, I'd end up hating to cook for friends/family. So, I dropped out and never looked back.

True that most chefs become alcoholics for lots of reasons, not the least of which is that the bartender will always trade his best drinks for the best of what comes from the kitchen.

Then the owner wonders why that quart of Johnny Walker Blue Label is almost gone and he's only sold one shot of it.

Oh well, I'm rambling, but suffice it to say, it takes a lot of years of hard work and dedication to even start to make serious money as a chef.
To me, no way is it worth it.


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Re: Any Professional Chefs out there? [Re: TM]
    #2147348 - 11/30/03 04:48 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

we have a wiener!!! :grin:


No, I'd say the druggies and alcoholics can be found pretty much everywhere. I did co-op in England and one of the line cooks that I worked with would do rails of coke in the bathroom before the midday rush.


JWU's dropout rate is one of the highest in the country: Aspiring chef's beware!!! If you can survive it (I'm surprised I've held up for so long) it's well worth it. For me, not only does the school provide a solid education but chances to work with chef's and at places I wouldn't have imagined, not to mention all the connections and chef's I've befriended over the years. Upon graduation I'll have a top hat full of restaurant and/or hotel names to choose from.


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Re: Any Professional Chefs out there? [Re: soochi]
    #2149513 - 12/01/03 01:40 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

can you provide dropout rates for it, as opposed to say CCA, or any other culinary school?

I looked, I had a hard time finding documentation that it's got one of the highest dropout rates.


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Re: Any Professional Chefs out there? [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #2149988 - 12/01/03 04:47 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

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Senor_Doobie said:
Is it possible that the problems you have encuntered have been regional and not universal?




Yeah, it's possible. But it's not. Because the cooking profession sucks cock.


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Re: Any Professional Chefs out there? [Re: Raadt]
    #2153530 - 12/02/03 10:48 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

CCA? What about the CIA, culinary institute of america? Right now I'm studying Restaurant and Hotel Management and plan to get a bachelors, and then go to culinary school for straight culinary studies, because I should have my degree by then. I have no idea where good culinary schools are. I'm Any good schools in Canada? wanting to get out of the US.


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Re: Any Professional Chefs out there? [Re: eve69]
    #2156333 - 12/03/03 06:56 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Eve69, you hit the nail on the head. I've been working in my university's cafeteria for the past three years for extra cash, and I worked as a cook this summer for the first time. Everything you said is more or less true. Also everybody else's contributions about cooks becoming alky's or druggies is true, it's such a pain in the ass stressful environment you need something to make the horror go away. Shit, I was even mixing cooking wine in with my soda near the end before I went back to school. Managment always bitched at us too, if you made the order fast, they said it looked like shit. If you made it look good, they bitched at you for not working fast enough. Our kitchen manager did the whole culinary school cooking thing for a while, and one of the benfeits of knowing all the cooks at the nice places he said, was the bonus of being able to take girls out and get hooked up by fellow chefs. In conclusion, I say I had fun cooking and all, and even tolerated it, but it is a high stress environment and people will get up and quit in a heartbeat. Overall, I'd say the job's have been tolerable overall, although I almost always contemplate getting loaded one way or another before my shifts, although I usually never do, because going in drunk or stoned only makes the job seem longer and harder to do in the long run, so I don't do it. I'm glad that I'm not studying for that line of work at the moment, because although I'd probably be able to handle it, I can see myself becoming jaded about my job in the long run.

PS - As a point in fact, our assistant manager during a group meeting asked us who smoked weed, and everyone (myself included) raised our hands. In the span of three months, we had gone through four cooks. Oh well, that's what they get for hiring cooks at $6 an hour.


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Re: Any Professional Chefs out there? [Re: biglo]
    #2159445 - 12/04/03 08:12 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

The best jobs I ever had were where we smoked week at designated breaktimes. Weed is the cooks magic. It would be so great coming back to the line especially near the end of the night and take a fresh and apraising look at each plate. And know that everyone on the line was with you. We all would really put out the best and most gorgeous plates of food just for art's sake. And to think the employers think stoners are weak. Straight people are weak. The worst people I ever worked with were straight. They had one speed, and couldn't see things any other way but from out of the bosses ass. Portholing.

I was a chef at a small joint where I had to do everything. Man talk about stress. The joy of being creative and taking all credit however was mine. But man I had to get stoned like ten times a night. I would use on of these couple hit pipes and stick my head in the hoods and light up a few times. Then cook. If I wasn't stoned I would be in a seriously bad fucking mood. In fact, I wasn't stoned the day before 9/11 and I told the owners off and they fired me that night. I sat at home on 9/11 and watched it all happen first hand. There was more, actualy my best friend I had always had come in to help me out of tight spots. He knew the ropes, and so the owners made him chef and payed him less. Thus I lost my best friend, got fired, and was feeling totally fucked on 9/11. I'll never forget that day. I was LOW.


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Re: Any Professional Chefs out there? [Re: biglo]
    #2161223 - 12/05/03 11:41 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

ouch, 6$ an hour?

I made 10 as an extern.. hehe.


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Re: Any Professional Chefs out there? [Re: Raadt]
    #3363818 - 11/15/04 12:08 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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Okay, Im not a chef.. Im in the computer industry. I strongly advise you to be a chef and not go into the computer industry if you wish to have a job when you get out of college.




I can second this. I ended up becoming a line chef, and part time dish washer because of the lac of computer job's. I ended up starting my own computer repair/sales buisness which happened to get somewhat successfull, but in my off season I still look for those part time cooking job's.


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Re: Any Professional Chefs out there? [Re: ChopperDave]
    #3366771 - 11/15/04 10:09 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I would have to say that if you want to become a chef then be a chef

Don't let these stories stop you. These stories can be found in any work place. My wife has worked in 5 star kitchens the entire time I have known her. She spent 6 years in college learning to cook. She tells me the same type of shit I have read in this thread. She is a woman and has it 5 times worse. BUT...................

She loves her work and gets paid VERY VERY well. Last year she cleared 54,000 dollars. Plus she gets all kinds of cash tips when she handles the banquets.


I think you should do what makes you happy. And when you run into bullshit you work past it. You work harder than the biggest asshole in the kitchen. You brown nose you kiss ass you do what ever it takes to become what it is you want.

Never let people foul you up. You life is your life. Never allow idiots to take your pride. Save 25% of your pay and open your own place and serve the food you want. Even if it takes 10 years of bullshit.

GO FOR IT and don't listen to anything or anyone who tells you you can't make it. Just because they are having a hard time doesn't mean you will.

Tip for you..............People who bitch about there workplace are not good workers. They never receive rewards or promotions.

I know. I have been a business owner for 20 years. I have hired and fired hundreds of people. It is the go getter's and the worker that work past problems that made it to the top.

Attitude is everything in success. Not the place you work


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Re: Any Professional Chefs out there? [Re: Chef_Tony]
    #3601300 - 01/08/05 11:47 PM (19 years, 23 days ago)

Are you seriously Chef Tony?
Who is he? What show is he on?
Are you real?


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