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InvisibleLifenergy
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Boy dies after mixing marijuana with painkiller
    #3596794 - 01/08/05 02:59 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

http://montreal.cbc.ca/regionalnews/caches/mon-stupidkid-050107.html

Boy dies after mixing marijuana with painkiller
Jan 7 2005 08:53 AM EST

A 14-year-old boy from L?vis is dead and another is in hospital with severe health effects after mixing marijuana with a prescription drug.

Police say the two adolescents were rushed to hospital on New Year's Eve.

The boys were partying with friends and no adults were around.

Police say it appears they smoked cannabis with a powerful painkiller called a Duragesic patch.

This type of patch is a strong artificial opiate given for pain control. It is not recommended for teenagers under age 18.

One boy died and the other remains in hospital with permanent liver and muscle damage.

Police are waiting for the coroner's report in order to find out exactly why the boy died.

Francois Bisson, spokesman for L?vis police, says mixing synthetic drugs is very dangerous because it's impossible to know how each person will react.

Police are warning young people to stay away from their home medicine cabinets.

Dr. Mark Zoccolillo, director of the substance abuse clinic at the Montreal Children's Hospital, says parents should be aware of what their adolescents are doing.

Canada has a very high rate of drug use among adolescents, he says, but young people do not fully understand the risks.

"They are sophisticated about getting high but not sophisticated about the risks of taking these drugs," he says.


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Re: Boy dies after mixing marijuana with painkiller [Re: Lifenergy]
    #3597469 - 01/08/05 08:43 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: Boy dies after mixing marijuana with painkiller [Re: ivi]
    #3597550 - 01/08/05 09:46 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

those patches are seriously fucked up medicine... very easy to od, because there's 3 days worth of painkiller in one... people like to suck the jelly out of them, but a drop too much puts you into OD territory... dangerous recreation there... i doubt the pot played a role at all...


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Re: Boy dies after mixing marijuana with painkiller [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #3598018 - 01/08/05 01:11 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

jesus, my grandma has these patches.


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Re: Boy dies after mixing marijuana with painkiller [Re: baraka]
    #3598129 - 01/08/05 01:46 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Safety warnings from the Duragesic patch website:
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1. One important side effect is slow, shallow, and/or difficulty in breathing, which can occur if the dose of DURAGESIC is too high. You and your household members should discuss with your doctor what signs and symptoms to look for and what to do if these develop. If you are uncertain what to do, call your doctor or get other emergency medical help.
2. Do not take other medications (prescription or over-the-counter) while wearing DURAGESIC unless specifically told to do so by your doctor. Be especially careful about drugs that can make you sleepy.





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Re: Boy dies after mixing marijuana with painkiller [Re: DNKYD]
    #3598688 - 01/08/05 03:46 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

The pot probably didn't play a significant role, but you know how the media is. You mix the "evil" weed with these "safe" patches and wham! Death by marijuana. Propaganda is the reason marijuana is illegal in the first place. The bullshit never ends.


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Re: Boy dies after mixing marijuana with painkiller [Re: Lifenergy]
    #3600448 - 01/08/05 10:42 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

fentanyl is one badass drug. I was on it in the hospital, much much stronger than morphine.


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Re: Boy dies after mixing marijuana with painkiller [Re: derx]
    #3600568 - 01/08/05 11:17 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Has nothing to do with the marijuana. Fuck.


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Re: Boy dies after mixing marijuana with painkiller [Re: Lifenergy]
    #3600577 - 01/08/05 11:19 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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doubt the pot played a role at all











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Re: Boy dies after mixing marijuana with painkiller [Re: motaman]
    #3606633 - 01/10/05 04:34 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

we advocate the use of mary as a an herb even as medicine, so it should be respected as such. mary will temporarily increase bp just as a cig does. information beats all when it come to situations like these. The mary probably did play a significant role in this case because it was mixed with another bp altering drug. Please do not perform rigorous activity while using mary, trust me. I had a friend 14 die from playing streetball after getting high. Its a chill medicine. for relaxation, pain, hunger not to be underestimated, but respected


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Re: Boy dies after mixing marijuana with painkiller [Re: rickyanddick]
    #3606643 - 01/10/05 04:42 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

i am not for government controlling what i put in my body especially if it is grown by me. The facts are is does slightly raise bp. seriously, take your bp while resting, dont exert any energy,smoke wait a minute or two and have someone take your bp. remember each strain has its own qualities, some are speedy, some are sedating, and some just are dopey. try it, and then truly respect the seed bearing plant. the patch killed the kids, but mixing it with god's potent medicine didnt help.


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Re: Boy dies after mixing marijuana with painkiller [Re: rickyanddick]
    #3606772 - 01/10/05 06:54 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

> I had a friend 14 die from playing streetball after getting high.

I had a friend 16 die from playing tennis after not getting high. Just because somebody smokes than dies afterwards does not mean that the smoking was in any7 way causal. (... and I am serious about the 16 year old friend that died during tennis practice. Some kind of heart problem, and the hospital was within sight of the school.)

> patch killed the kids

Claiming that the patch killed the kid is just as incorrect as claiming that the cannabis (or the mix) killed the kid. We simply do not know. Maybe he got some bad food at the burger shop earlier in the day, had a heart condition, was on other drugs as well, etc...


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Re: Boy dies after mixing marijuana with painkiller [Re: Lifenergy]
    #3607380 - 01/10/05 12:45 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

who the hell gives powerful opiates to 14 year old kids.

the reporter did a nice job with the headline. i wonder how many people have died from mixing water with painkillers.


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Re: Boy dies after mixing marijuana with painkiller [Re: Lifenergy]
    #3607628 - 01/10/05 02:26 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

All i ask is how many more people need to die from fentanyl.


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Re: Boy dies after mixing marijuana with painkiller [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #3607685 - 01/10/05 02:40 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

> All i ask is how many more people need to die from fentanyl.

What do you suggest? Outlaw fentanyl? It isn't the people with legal prescriptions for it that are getting killed, but the people that are stealing it and abusing it. Perhaps education is the key, but that requires that we teach responsibility rather than fear.


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Re: Boy dies after mixing marijuana with painkiller [Re: Seuss]
    #3607763 - 01/10/05 02:58 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

well, it is quite possible that they would have had serious medical ramificatioons by soley abusing the fentayl patch...
however, cannabis does indeed have medical effects & can alter a person's reaction to other drugs...
i have heard that pot can slow down the liver's turnover rate for a number of drugs (including "downers" and opiates) - so it is not impossible that the pot/opiod combo was just a wee bit too much
(& the kid that lived was prolly fubared due to lack of oxygen to the brain for too dam' long (anoxia/hypoxia) & turning all sorta bluish, eh?)


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Re: Boy dies after mixing marijuana with painkiller [Re: gnrm23]
    #3607851 - 01/10/05 03:21 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

> so it is not impossible that the pot/opiod combo was just a wee bit too much

I am not claiming that the combo was or was not causal. A person mixed two things and died. One thing by itself could be the cause. The other thing by itself could be the cause. Both things together could be the cause. Neither thing could be the cause. We simply do not have enough data to determine what was causal and what was not. It is just as wrong for us to jump to conclusions as it was for the media to automatically label the combo as the cause of death.


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Re: Boy dies after mixing marijuana with painkiller [Re: Seuss]
    #3607926 - 01/10/05 03:44 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Using common sense though, in this case it seems the probability would suggest that a young teen used an extremely potent painkiller, 40 times more powerful than heroin, incorrectly, and paid the price. I doubt marijuana played a significant part (perhaps any part) in this at all. If you notice, one can realize the greater probability he died from fentanyl because 1) the other boy using fentanyl along with him is in bad condition with permanent liver and muscle damage, 2) it occured on the same night, and 3) things like this have been reported from fentanyl abuse before.

It seems you're just trying to pick it apart when it's fairly probable based on the known evidence that the conclusion drawn, the boy overdosed on fentanyl, is correct on the known facts.


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Re: Boy dies after mixing marijuana with painkiller [Re: Lifenergy]
    #3609301 - 01/10/05 08:26 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

"Police say it appears they smoked cannabis with a powerful painkiller called a Duragesic patch."

Maybe they should not have smoked the patch.

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Re: Boy dies after mixing marijuana with painkiller [Re: Joshua]
    #3609445 - 01/10/05 08:58 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Joshua said:
"Police say it appears they smoked cannabis with a powerful painkiller called a Duragesic patch."

Maybe they should not have smoked the patch.

Joshua




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