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InvisibleEgo Death
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E.V.P
    #3596646 - 01/08/05 02:23 AM (12 years, 16 days ago)

E.V.P

Its short for electronic voice phenomena which claims to allow communication with the DEAD! :eek:

I first heard about EVP a few years back and after seeing a lot of fanatical claims about white noise and I decided it was most likely to just be wishful thinking.

Well recently, as you probably know, the media has released a film about EVP which has once again sparked debate over EVP's authenticity.  I watched a TV program where a university professor has performed controlled tests on EVP and he is now convinced it is a very real phenomena and is in fact 'the voice of the dead'.

This has had me reconsidering my current logic and I wish to investigate EVP further.

Does anybody have any experiences or knowledge about EVP they would like to share???


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Re: E.V.P [Re: Ego Death]
    #3597554 - 01/08/05 09:48 AM (12 years, 16 days ago)

This is not EVP, but there was a funny story about Leary
mailing some people after death, most notably his son, and Robert Anton Wilson.


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Re: E.V.P [Re: skystone]
    #3598344 - 01/08/05 02:32 PM (12 years, 15 days ago)

i would personally explain E.V.P. simply as a magetic feold of a parralell universe, and since we are only the playhtings of our souls, this makes perfect sense to me.


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Re: E.V.P [Re: Ego Death]
    #3598419 - 01/08/05 02:52 PM (12 years, 15 days ago)

If I may be allowed to debunk (and yes as a total sound nut with racks of equipment, I have tested the EVP phenomenon.)

There are several forces at work here, none of them extraordinary. Tape recorders "work" much better than digital recording devices. This is due to the simple fact that iron oxide recordings are not 100% erased when laying down a new track. This is why analog recording studios ALWAYS use a fresh tape for the final master. There is also the matter of "bleed-through" from adjacent tracks. There is also the fact that some non-radio electronic devices can inadvertently pick up radio and TV and other RF signals.

Take those three possibilities and add in the human need to make sense of noise and you have "spirits talking".


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Re: E.V.P [Re: Ego Death]
    #3598456 - 01/08/05 03:03 PM (12 years, 15 days ago)

A lot of the EVP examples I have heard sound like the jibberish that come out of my guitar pickups through my amp. I guess it is magnetic devices picking up signals as Swami said :shrug:


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Re: E.V.P [Re: Organic]
    #3598510 - 01/08/05 03:12 PM (12 years, 15 days ago)

creepy noises or faint pick ups from other frequencies = ghost voices.

If spirits exist i see no reason why they would need an electronic medium to communicate with us


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Re: E.V.P [Re: Moonshoe]
    #3598597 - 01/08/05 03:24 PM (12 years, 15 days ago)

The ones I have heard were clearly radio signals unless it was the ghost of a ham radio enthusiast. Some examples I've heard online didn't sound the same as the signals I've picked up, but many do.


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Re: E.V.P [Re: Organic]
    #3598602 - 01/08/05 03:25 PM (12 years, 15 days ago)

im not an expert on this so im just speculating, if youve ever had a spirit talk to you through a radio , all my disbelief is null and void.


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Re: E.V.P [Re: Moonshoe]
    #3605401 - 01/09/05 10:47 PM (12 years, 14 days ago)

Actually the professor tested EVP using digital recorders in a controlled environment, by that I mean they tested and prevented any possible external sources.

The professor stated an awareness of the false EVP phenomena Swami talks of. They also stated that many of the 'voices' required no amplification or cleaning up and were quite clearly a person talking.

Why would Professor David Montana who seems so aware of the factors involved still state that it is "his personal belief" that these are voices of the dead???

And if the reason is just to sell a book then it should be fraud that somebody can lie that specifically.


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Re: E.V.P [Re: Ego Death]
    #3605501 - 01/09/05 11:17 PM (12 years, 14 days ago)

After reading "Breakthrough" I experimented extensively with this up to and including spending several nights in a graveyard with a tape recorder following all of the prescribed protocol and I got zip. The spirits don't need tape recorders anyway...


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Re: E.V.P [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #3607424 - 01/10/05 01:14 PM (12 years, 13 days ago)

why would spirits hang out in graveyards, talking to people with tape recorders? you'd think they'd have better things to do

unless the afterlife is totally boring. no one ever thinks of that do they? maybe there's this one strip mall in the after life, and you only have 6 bucks, and all the shops are closed anyways. so you go hang out in the graveyard, just like you did when you were alive and bored


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Re: E.V.P [Re: Zekebomb]
    #3607446 - 01/10/05 01:26 PM (12 years, 13 days ago)

You'd have better luck in an old house or castle or dwelling of some type. The older the better to test this i think.Ive found that I'm uncomfortable in a dwelling older than 30 years old,especially if the previous dwellers were abusive,crazy,insane or constantly fighting (argumentative or physical).


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Re: E.V.P [Re: Cosm]
    #3608770 - 01/10/05 06:23 PM (12 years, 13 days ago)

I'm a huge paranormal fanatic, but I'm very skeptical of EVP. I think we just tend to hear vocies admist the static. Just like we tend to see random faces in inanimate objects, such as the moon.

Thoes voices that you hear in EVP... do you think they would really sound like anything if there wasn't a subtitle on the TV screen to tell you what your supposed to be hearing?


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Re: E.V.P [Re: djd586]
    #3608884 - 01/10/05 06:49 PM (12 years, 13 days ago)

Quote:

djd586 said:
I'm a huge paranormal fantic




So you are like 3 meters high, paranormal, and fanatic of something,
or are just a huge fanatic of paranormal?

If you are huge and paranormal, can we get some pics posted?


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Re: E.V.P [Re: Zekebomb]
    #3609080 - 01/10/05 07:33 PM (12 years, 13 days ago)

I tried more than graveyards, but the proponents of EVP are great believers in spiritual presences being in graveyards so I gave it a good shot. It may be that in recent times the spirits will want to play with more cutting edge technology...you know, always got to have the latest and greatest. I predict EVP migrating from tape recorders to a digital medium.


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Re: E.V.P [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #3609247 - 01/10/05 08:15 PM (12 years, 13 days ago)

well digital sound recording is same as digitized analog recording.
It starts analog one way or another..

But anyway. Are you sure spirits get the latest copy of Sony Style
catalog on time?


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Re: E.V.P [Re: Swami]
    #3610520 - 01/11/05 01:02 AM (12 years, 13 days ago)

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Swami said: There is also the fact that some non-radio electronic devices can inadvertently pick up radio and TV and other RF signals.




True story - I once heard a spanish radio broadcast coming from my bass amp. It faded in and out, but it was quite distinct. The funny thing is that I turned on my radio and I couldn't find what channel I was hearing through my amp. Weird.


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Re: E.V.P [Re: Ego Death]
    #3942990 - 03/20/05 09:11 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

This has sparked my interest!! Look what I found on Ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...ssPageName=WDVW


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Re: E.V.P [Re: Zepplin]
    #3943088 - 03/20/05 09:49 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Interesting although it wouldn't be very scientific to use such a device.

I have walked into a call box before and when I picked up the reciever, faintly but surely, I could hear two people having a conversation!


I think EVP should be performed in highly controlled conditions before one decides that the phenomena is real!


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Re: E.V.P [Re: Ego Death]
    #3971611 - 03/26/05 08:34 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

This guy on ebay sells diode receivers for EVP.. Also ones to listen for EVPs through the phone lines. The phone line ones makes a great phone tap thats undetectable!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5567137990&ssPageName=ADME:B:LC:US:1 :shocked:


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