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    #3595527 - 01/07/05 10:10 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Why is it that we feel so bad when people or animals close to us die? We know it's inevitable, we know they will die, we know that we ourselves will die, yet when it comes we are always surprised and distraught. Many slump into depressions that they never return out of, some people's lives never feel the same again. Why were we created with such a strong sense of sorrow when the inevitable happens?

It's possible that it has to do with looking at it from an evolutionary perspective, that if we grow sad with even the thought of our dog dying, we'll put everything in that we can to keep him alive, thereby ensuring the survival of that dog, as you often see him as part of the family. But it wouldn't make sense that after the dog dies we should feel sad for the rest of our life. What do we get out of this from an evolutionary standpoint? The dog is dead, it was inevitable, now let us recover and continue on, not be slowed by sorrow and grief.

It wouldn't be such a problem if these humans were dying off by natural selection, but it seems the majority of humans are burdened by sorrow after the death of one close to them, so it would seem we have evolved to feel sadness even after death, when there's nothing we can do about it. Rather odd how humans, and some other animals who also have this same behavior, are wired.


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Re: Death [Re: Ravus]
    #3595551 - 01/07/05 10:14 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I am not sad if the person or animal that dies has lived a long life, I am sad however if a persons life is ended sooner than it should have ended.


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Re: Death [Re: Kenny7822]
    #3595606 - 01/07/05 10:22 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

You would not be sad if your 70 year old mother who has lived a long life suddenly died?

Even for people who have lived the fullest longest life, I notice those close to them still get sad and mourn.


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Re: Death [Re: Ravus]
    #3595620 - 01/07/05 10:24 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

becuase we come to the realiztion that we will never again be able to seek whatever it is that this person or animal or random what-have-you gave to us that so profoundly impacted our lives, at least not in this lifetime.


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Re: Death [Re: Ravus]
    #3595638 - 01/07/05 10:28 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Well if my mother died I would miss her but I would be happy that she got to live such a long life and be happy that she was there for me for that long. I certainly wouldn't dwell on it and let it control my life.


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Re: Death [Re: Kenny7822]
    #3595715 - 01/07/05 10:43 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Death huh?


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Re: Death [Re: Gomp]
    #3595794 - 01/07/05 11:00 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

lol gomp


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Re: Death [Re: Ravus]
    #3595807 - 01/07/05 11:03 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I wouldn't call the discomfort we feel about death a trait hard-wired into us. Our arms. Those are hard-wired.


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Re: Death [Re: Mixomatosis]
    #3596995 - 01/08/05 03:52 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

yeah, I'll bet you could ask any anthropologist and they'd tell you about some tribe or tribes where people feel great joy when their loved ones pass on. or take the Irish: when someone dies, they throw a party!


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Re: Death [Re: Zekebomb]
    #3597067 - 01/08/05 04:14 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I am one of those that doesn't feel sadness when someone dies. I don't look forward to death, but I am not afraid.

When someone I know dies, I think that they just passed on to the next thing. He/she is not really absent. We just can't see him/her in this dimension or something like that.


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Re: Death [Re: Ravus]
    #3597383 - 01/08/05 07:26 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Attachment, percieving things to be perminent self existing, and solid. when they are imperminent, interdependent, and of no solid sustainable substance.


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