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OfflinePorchMonkey321
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Sour Jars
    #3592761 - 01/07/05 09:37 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Alright shroomery, help me figure this one out:

I'm about to start another batch of BRF/Verm half-pints. I sterilized them last week, and they have been sitting in the incubator since then, to check for contams. A few of the jars got water in them during sterilization, and another few got a bit too hot and cooked the flour on the bottom, so I took them out today to mix up another batch of substrate for them. Upon opening the lids, I noticed a light yet distinct sour smell, but no contams were present. Whats going on here? All the jars look fine, so I'm at a loss as to what's going on.


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Re: Sour Jars [Re: PorchMonkey321]
    #3592773 - 01/07/05 09:42 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Upon further inspection, I removed the dry layer of verm (wet in the case of the ones that got water in them) on the top of the jars and did the smell check again.  Smell is gone.  The substrate just smells like BRF.  WTF is up with that?  Anyone else every have a batch of verm that smelled?  Last time I checked, contams don't get on verm very well, especially dry verm, like in several of the jars.  I really am at a loss.  :confused: Any Ideas?


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Re: Sour Jars [Re: PorchMonkey321]
    #3592870 - 01/07/05 10:20 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

sour is something wrong. It will show in time...or try to pinpoint it.


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Re: Sour Jars [Re: dobinky]
    #3593155 - 01/07/05 12:13 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: Sour Jars [Re: lemon_lw]
    #3593542 - 01/07/05 02:22 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

If anything smells sour,It is contamed even if the contam is not visible.


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Re: Sour Jars [Re: ToKa]
    #3594136 - 01/07/05 05:00 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

They are fermenting, the sour smell is alcohol and ammonium nitrate/nitrite. You have a bacterial contamination, and possibly some green mold starting deep inside.

Bummer!

You may have used "Hot" tap water, try cold next time for your water. Hot water tanks are breeding grounds for harmless bacteria when they don't set the thermostat inside high. (Attempt to save money.)

PC, longer by half an hour, and make sure that you have soaked your BRF or WBS 24 hours before you add it to your mix. (Most TEK's show dry BRF being added, big mistake!)


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Re: Sour Jars [Re: LaughingJim]
    #3594147 - 01/07/05 05:02 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Cooked brf=longer colonization times
strange un-mushies kind of smell=Contam, no need to risk it, throw away,do moe's outdoor tek, or put in a location by itsself away from everything else.


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