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OfflineGazzBut
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Re: Why are we paying for the tsunami? [Re: SoopaX]
    #3578371 - 01/04/05 06:06 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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If it's so critical that we help other nations, why didn't our founding fathers put that in the Constitution?





Oh if the holy and infallible founding fathers didnt put it in the holy and sacred constitution then it must be irrelevant...gimme a break.

Newsflash Soopa - The world we live in has changed just a little since the constitution was written... and as far as I know the holy and infallible founding fathers did not have the power to see into the future when writing the holy and sacred constitution.


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Re: Why are we paying for the tsunami? [Re: GazzBut]
    #3578776 - 01/04/05 09:05 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

thankful;y GWB is around to sort that out!


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Re: Why are we paying for the tsunami? [Re: cubed]
    #3578841 - 01/04/05 09:25 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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If you'd ever been to any of these places, as I have, you'd know that a billion dollars could have "helped" them. If it's so critical that we help other nations, why didn't our founding fathers put that in the Constitution?




coz no one gives a fuck - just like u soopa...

and that's also why no rich governments helped these places ever (except in cheap pr trix like the present one) I mean that is the whole purpose of the World bank and 'globalization' "free trade" *ahem*

Isn't double-speak a wonderful ting??? mmmm-huh

40,000 people die of starvation every day - it makes the news once every 20 years or so and people donate. In the week since the tsunami disaster around 300,000 people have dies of starvation - and it was frigging christmas - the season of goodwill.

Death is life and pr donations are pr donations - but donations they are none-the-less.

The money spent securing the Iraqi oilfields and the 200,000 innocents killed down in those parts could have pretty much fed the world and rebuilt the tsunami stricken areas.....

with change to spare

I mean where in the constitution does it say the government can make up an absolute load of untrue shit and invade countries on false pretenses - spending billions of our fucking money on their great phallic semi-religio wankoff! (whilst killing more people than a tsunami in the process)


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Re: Why are we paying for the tsunami? [Re: SoopaX]
    #3578889 - 01/04/05 09:50 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

A lot of the aid will be in the form of non-monetary aid such logistics, something modern large militaries are very good at, they could just be treating it as massive operational exercise, and probably are.

Monetary aid is dwarfed by debt in the area, as UK chancellor Gordon Brown has suggested, debt relief will be of far more benefit.

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Re: Why are we paying for the tsunami? [Re: psilomonkey]
    #3579012 - 01/04/05 10:47 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

but debt relief will mean long term benefit to the area!!!

eeek - are you insane!


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Offlinekadakuda
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Re: Why are we paying for the tsunami? [Re: cubed]
    #3581021 - 01/04/05 06:40 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

:yesnod: :thumbup:


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Re: Why are we paying for the tsunami? [Re: kadakuda]
    #3581340 - 01/04/05 07:55 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Why the big taunami support? The kings and puppets need support otherwise the people there would revolt. No support means regime change over there. Give money and then theres no puppet accountability, no new castros, no peoples revolution. Everyones so kind. But I think all the money or MREs in the world won't stop the revolutions that are going to happen there. Those governments are criminal and will keep the money for the puppets wives and kids shopping sprees in NYC. Berlin, Hong Kong etc. Wait and see. Its always happens. The poor rob each other and the rich rob the donations.
BTW A few MREs dropped from aircraft choppers are going to do crap. It'll just piss em off in the end. When russia drops russian MREs off to you in Idaho and Texas we'll see how thankful you are. Bows and arrows are already being shot at the relief choppers dropping off MREs. Soon those arrows will be rockets once they figure out how to open the plastic and actully get to taste an MRE. Thats just my prediction.
I'd rather see the millions of masses of hungry people moving inland towards the palaces and capital for food and answers. Mankind at its best.


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Re: Why are we paying for the tsunami? [Re: mabus]
    #3584441 - 01/05/05 02:27 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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mabus said:
Why the big taunami support? The kings and puppets need support otherwise the people there would revolt. No support means regime change over there. Give money and then theres no puppet accountability, no new castros, no peoples revolution. Everyones so kind. But I think all the money or MREs in the world won't stop the revolutions that are going to happen there. Those governments are criminal and will keep the money for the puppets wives and kids shopping sprees in NYC. Berlin, Hong Kong etc. Wait and see. Its always happens. The poor rob each other and the rich rob the donations.
BTW A few MREs dropped from aircraft choppers are going to do crap. It'll just piss em off in the end. When russia drops russian MREs off to you in Idaho and Texas we'll see how thankful you are. Bows and arrows are already being shot at the relief choppers dropping off MREs. Soon those arrows will be rockets once they figure out how to open the plastic and actully get to taste an MRE. Thats just my prediction.
I'd rather see the millions of masses of hungry people moving inland towards the palaces and capital for food and answers. Mankind at its best.




Any source on bows being fired at relief helicopters? I find that quite hilarious.


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Re: Why are we paying for the tsunami? [Re: Rose]
    #3584889 - 01/05/05 04:01 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

>I expect America will be the BIGGEST donor when all is said and done. We can't afford not to be.

Australia:
$764 million over five years.

Germany:
$668 million over three to five years.
In addition to this, people donated $200 millions until yesterday.

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Re: Why are we paying for the tsunami? [Re: d33p]
    #3584956 - 01/05/05 04:12 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4144405.stm
d33p this is the bows and arrows link. (poor tribe)


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Re: Why are we paying for the tsunami? [Re: Anno]
    #3586626 - 01/05/05 10:21 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

All is not said and done yet anno.


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Re: Why are we paying for the tsunami? [Re: SoopaX]
    #3586890 - 01/05/05 11:08 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

America wants to be a World Leader.. We want to be the Biggest and Best in everything..

I say that this is money well spend and Im all for it..

a few billion to save lives is much better than 200 BILLION we will spend in Iraq.


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