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InvisiblePeterthinks
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7th beer...got Idea.....JELLO!
    #3584117 - 01/05/05 03:13 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Why do we have to use Agar?
Can't we use gelatin?
Has anyone tried it?
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Re: 7th beer...got Idea.....JELLO! [Re: Peterthinks]
    #3584148 - 01/05/05 03:19 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Yep. I had the same idea a few days ago, but did a search of old posts and it looks like a no go. When the myc eats the jello it turns it back into liquid.


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Re: 7th beer...got Idea.....JELLO! [Re: shroomydan]
    #3584176 - 01/05/05 03:26 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Isn't agar a sort of Jello?


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Re: 7th beer...got Idea.....JELLO! [Re: Land_Crab]
    #3584248 - 01/05/05 03:42 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Not really. The big deference is that mushrooms can't digest the agar so it remains solid, this is not the case with Jello.


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Re: 7th beer...got Idea.....JELLO! [Re: shroomydan]
    #3584271 - 01/05/05 03:46 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

How about Pectin for canning?
can they eat that?


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Re: 7th beer...got Idea.....JELLO! [Re: Peterthinks]
    #3584327 - 01/05/05 04:02 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Doesn't Pectin has sugars in it? And.....wouldn't the myc. Eat it like crazy?.......*shrugs*


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Re: 7th beer...got Idea.....JELLO! [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3584331 - 01/05/05 04:04 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

any of various water-soluble substances that bind adjacent cell walls in plant tissues and yield a gel which is the basis of fruit jellies; also : a commercial product rich in pectins

Or are you talking about something way more advanced that i have no clue about? lol


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Re: 7th beer...got Idea.....JELLO! [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3584351 - 01/05/05 04:09 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Nope,just random stabs in the dark here.
I'd try plaster as a binding agent if I thought it would work instead of agar($$$).
You know what it just might work with plaster!
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Re: 7th beer...got Idea.....JELLO! [Re: Peterthinks]
    #3584370 - 01/05/05 04:13 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

But doesn't that harden into a brick like substance.....how would myc. grow in an environment like that?

....and....are you drinking beers or taking shots? Lol

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Re: 7th beer...got Idea.....JELLO! [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3584449 - 01/05/05 04:29 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)



How about wet vermiculite. Use the nute solution to wet the vermiculite. Smooth it out in the bottom of your dish, then PC and inoculate. I've never tried it, but it might work.


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Re: 7th beer...got Idea.....JELLO! [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #3584472 - 01/05/05 04:34 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Ya know what...after seeing fungus eat Gyprock just cause it was moist I'm willing to bet that if it had food in it AND it was moist anything would grow in plaster or any other stuff(paper mache or whatever)besides Mycelium grow on the surface of my Agar.I never see them in it like roots...It doesn't grow down and yes I'm alternating shots with BEer...so what.
I break out the big paper,all mny crayons and jeust think when I drink.
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Re: 7th beer...got Idea.....JELLO! [Re: Peterthinks]
    #3584479 - 01/05/05 04:36 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I bet disks of drywal soaked in potato water and sterilized would support mycelium.
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Re: 7th beer...got Idea.....JELLO! [Re: Peterthinks]
    #3584686 - 01/05/05 05:21 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Gelatin breaks down at about 100 degrees Celcius, so it wouldn't withstand the temperatures inside an autoclave and thus can't be used to replace agar.

People have reported succes using discs of cardboard boiled in water and then dipped in a malt water solution before putting in petri dishes and autoclaving. If I remember correctly, getting the water content correct is the most crucial part of using cardboard.


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Re: 7th beer...got Idea.....JELLO! [Re: OJK]
    #3584848 - 01/05/05 05:52 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/25948
This seems cheap and easy, although, I've never tried it.


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Re: 7th beer...got Idea.....JELLO! [Re: NoodleSalad]
    #3586918 - 01/06/05 01:15 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Cardboard :thumbup:.


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