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Dems charge white house holding back docs on Gonzales.
    #3583867 - 01/05/05 01:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

http://www.drudgereport.com/

the Dems look like the defense team for Al Queda. they want to grant Al Queda POW status. the dems will again look like complete fools.


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Re: Dems charge white house holding back docs on Gonzales. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3583999 - 01/05/05 02:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So foreign fighters that are captured by our military during battle should not be considered prisoners of war? Oh wait, I forgot, they aren't wearing a uniform; therefore, the rules of warfare do not apply to them... we can go ahead and torture them, hold them forever without legal council or pressing charges, etc...

It is a very small step to turn upon your own people once you have set the precedence with others. How long before we allow the government to put cameras in our bedrooms to ensure that we don't have sex doggy style? I guess if I don't want a camera in my home watching what I do, I must be an Al Queda fighter and deserve to be locked away forever as well, no?

What ever happened to leading by example and treating others as one wants to be treated? Perhaps if we were a bit more human we wouldn't be fighting a war or worring about POW status for terrorists.


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Re: Dems charge white house holding back docs on Gonzales. [Re: Seuss]
    #3584603 - 01/05/05 05:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Seuss said:
So foreign fighters that are captured by our military during battle should not be considered prisoners of war? Oh wait, I forgot, they aren't wearing a uniform; therefore, the rules of warfare do not apply to them... we can go ahead and torture them, hold them forever without legal council or pressing charges, etc...

It is a very small step to turn upon your own people once you have set the precedence with others. How long before we allow the government to put cameras in our bedrooms to ensure that we don't have sex doggy style? I guess if I don't want a camera in my home watching what I do, I must be an Al Queda fighter and deserve to be locked away forever as well, no?

What ever happened to leading by example and treating others as one wants to be treated? Perhaps if we were a bit more human we wouldn't be fighting a war or worring about POW status for terrorists.




Wow, you have eloquently described the reason we are still in Iraqi as well as reason why Vietnam was such a disaster. It is this lack of balls attitude and pandering to world opinion which has in turn created a bigger problem in the area we were involved.

I really fear that all hope of Iraqi gaining a stable secular government has been lost due to people with attitudes like your own.

No understanding of military tactics what so ever, kinda like Clinton.


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Re: Dems charge white house holding back docs on Gonzales. [Re: Seuss]
    #3584694 - 01/05/05 05:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Seuss maybe we should sign a treaty with them. (AL qaeda)LOL

terrorists like AL qaeda who behead civilians and blow up embassies with civilians in them are not POWs...

to me they are like PIRATES, AND MAY BE HUNTED AND KILLED BY AN RECOGNIZED GOVERNMENT AGENCY.


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Re: Dems charge white house holding back docs on Gonzales. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3588308 - 01/06/05 11:32 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

> Wow, you have eloquently described the reason we are still in Iraqi as well as reason why Vietnam was such a disaster.

Kinda, but not really. The problem with both is the use of the military as a politcal tool. War and politics do not mix.

(For those that aren't familiar with my debate style, I tend to argue many different directions regardless of what I really believe. I feel that if I cannot appreciate an opponents view, then I don't really understand the issue.)

> AND MAY BE HUNTED AND KILLED BY AN RECOGNIZED GOVERNMENT AGENCY.

It is (or at least was) illegal for the US government to assassinate others. I know for fact, first hand, that the US government has assassinated others even when it was illegal. (Don't ask, I won't say any more about it...)


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Re: Dems charge white house holding back docs on Gonzales. [Re: Seuss]
    #3588446 - 01/06/05 12:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

because of their outlaw conduct, (pirates/AL qaeda) put themselves outside protection of law. on the high seas if you saw a pirate ship, you sank the bastard.
you assault pirates, you don't arrest pirates.

WANTED DEAD OR ALIVE = OBL

the (pirates/modern day terrorists) must have war... or the world would cease to fear them.


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Re: Dems charge white house holding back docs on Gonzales. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3592695 - 01/07/05 08:22 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

> because of their outlaw conduct, (pirates/AL qaeda) put themselves outside protection of law.

So if a bank robber robs a bank, then he should no longer be treated to the protections of the law? Once somebody breaks the law, the law no longer applies to them? Two wrongs do not make a right...


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