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Offlineillilluminatii
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scared and disoriented
    #3583255 - 01/05/05 09:51 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I've been visiting this site for months and months and have read almost everything on it, but not a whole lot in the forums. I've not yet found answers to these two questions:

1) is it possible to use a permeated jar of myco to make more jars? or must you start from spore every time. i've been using jars to make jars and it was working quite well but now they dont seem as brilliant white and almost whispy. they also dont grow the rope/cord like structure when i case them.

2) has anyone ever had pins without seeing that rope? call me impatient, i just really want to know if those cords are necessary. the only flush i've ever had did have them, so im getting worried.

thanks a bunch


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Re: scared and disoriented [Re: illilluminatii]
    #3583261 - 01/05/05 09:56 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

hrm.

i assume you're using grain-to-grain transfers with a glove box/flowhood. after 3 transfers (i think) the genetics start to degrade. have you tried cloning yet?

i've had pins without seeing great rhyzomorphic growth.. but there's always rhyzos. :smile:

good luck and happy shrooming!


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Re: scared and disoriented [Re: ZeroArmy27]
    #3583273 - 01/05/05 10:02 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

thanks a lot. yeah it was grain to grain. and yeah the spores i used were from one of my past flushes even, so i guess i'll have to alter my strategy.

and thats the first time i think i've seen "rhyzomorphic" yet. time to search for that.

thanks again


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Re: scared and disoriented [Re: illilluminatii]
    #3583280 - 01/05/05 10:05 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

when you start from spores, it's a new generation, so there's no genetic degradation there... but you don't have an isolated strain. when you do g2g transfers/agar work/etc... you can get better yields with your own substrain, but genetic degradation is a concern. :smile:


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Re: scared and disoriented [Re: ZeroArmy27]
    #3583389 - 01/05/05 11:12 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

ZeroArmy27 said:
when you start from spores, it's a new generation, so there's no genetic degradation there... but you don't have an isolated strain. when you do g2g transfers/agar work/etc... you can get better yields with your own substrain, but genetic degradation is a concern. :smile:




Genetics get a little quirky after 3rd G2G . No concern , "consideration" ! :wink:
Easily remedied if you got the supplies and spores or tissue to start again . :cool: :thumbup: :wink:


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Re: scared and disoriented [Re: tripndicular]
    #3585375 - 01/05/05 07:35 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Zero, are you saying that it's good to do g2g transfers since i'm not using an isolated strain? or did i miss it.  i think im going to just start from spore again. :frown:


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Re: scared and disoriented [Re: illilluminatii]
    #3586938 - 01/06/05 01:19 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

grain to grain transfers can be done from isolated strain or spores..doesnt matter...you just dont want to go past 3 generations...so you knocked up a quart of grain with spores (gen1)..split that into 50 jars of grain (gen2)..split 2 of those quarts into 100 new quarts and you got generation 3...after this you should start a new jar from spores again and repeat.

You can alter numbers or whatever to suit you..just an example.


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