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rye availablity
    #3580226 - 01/04/05 05:49 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I'm thinking of using rye soon but unlike most of the other ingrediants and equips I have no idea where to find the right stuff. I tried some nurseries and such w/ no luck. Am I just looking for grass seed or what? I know this is a silly simple question but to some of you but humor me please.
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Re: rye availablity [Re: NOS4A2]
    #3580301 - 01/04/05 06:06 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Rye grain, rye berries, heres a link of what it looks like

http://www.kalyx.com/store/proddetail.cfm/ItemID/55391.0/CategoryID/13500.0/SubCatID/2930.0/file.htm

Health food stores are the #1 place to find it, I found it local for pretty cheap.


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Re: rye availablity [Re: kronnyQ]
    #3580347 - 01/04/05 06:17 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

OK in US dollars what is a cheap price? because $10 for 5-6lbs seems pricey. Maybe I'm wrong


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Re: rye availablity [Re: kronnyQ]
    #3580352 - 01/04/05 06:18 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Rye Grass Seed is very differant from rye(rye berry)But also works very well.KSSS loves it.


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Re: rye availablity [Re: KaptKid]
    #3580398 - 01/04/05 06:33 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I use WBS now and it has toomany cracked grains in it so I'm hoping for more consistancy with rye esp. after heating.


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Re: rye availablity [Re: NOS4A2]
    #3580423 - 01/04/05 06:42 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

My WBS is ok hardly any "crackers" and cheaper then rye.
At the EKO-store rye here is about 1,10? a pound. Bout 1,50$.
SO 6 pound of "eko-rye" could be 9$, even 10 wouldnt be that pricey HERE.

But when bought in larger quantities prises drop. A millman (with a mill :wink: ) sells it for 0,90? a kilo. More then twice as cheap. But its 7? in distance.. (gas price)

So atm I use WBS which goes around about 1? a kilo. (2 pounds) There is also other cheap uncracked grain, food for small parrots (unhulled millet) for example.
Much of teh bird seeds can be used imho.

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Re: rye availablity [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3580558 - 01/04/05 07:16 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Rye is about 80 cents a pound from my local health food store...I think 83 cents...then if you buy 50 pound bags its 10% off. WBS is still cheaper though and much closer (rye consists of about 4 hours of driving) but I love rye.


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Re: rye availablity [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3580570 - 01/04/05 07:18 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Good to here from you again friend. I was thinking about just finding one type of grain like you mentioned,but everyone seems to have such good luck with rye. If I find it then I find it, but it looks like bird seed for now. :dumblol:


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Re: rye availablity [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3580685 - 01/04/05 07:41 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

That would be about $38.00 for a 50lb bag!!!
I pay $9.00 CND for 50 lbs.
You should look for a feed mill.  :crazy:


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Re: rye availablity [Re: Shdwstr]
    #3580734 - 01/04/05 07:51 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Oops..its 27 bucks with tax for a 50 pound bag so that must not be it...maybe it was 53 cents...

No feed mills around here....expensive to ship too......


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Re: rye availablity [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3580867 - 01/04/05 08:08 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I think I agree with scat...i think.


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Re: rye availablity [Re: NOS4A2]
    #3582690 - 01/05/05 04:01 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

What I like bout the WBS is the variety of grains in it.
Both is only a few hundred meters away from my door but the cheaper rye is bout an hour driving away.

I saw also WBS in 50 pound bags at a store here, and then it was like 0,25? p. pound..... But that quantity... Not yet hey! :laugh:


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Re: rye availablity [Re: NOS4A2]
    #3582697 - 01/05/05 04:03 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I dont have long experience but with WBS I have good colonisation results. Although I can imagine rye being also a good colonisator substrate cause the rye is more easy to penetrate for the mycelium IMHO.

When spawning to bulk WBS/Millet might have the advantage that you have more inoculating points.....

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Re: rye availablity [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3582751 - 01/05/05 04:21 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

dont order from kalyx. I ordered some verm from em a while back and it took 5 weeks to get (ontop of the high prices). Whatever live and learn.

just a heads up for ya bro


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Re: rye availablity [Re: NOS4A2]
    #3582785 - 01/05/05 04:35 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

a verm factory is 45 minutes away from me, it is 13? for 100 liters of verm... :grin:

(about 105 quarts)

Many PF cakes and a very thick casing layer can be made out of that! :laugh:


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Re: rye availablity [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3582804 - 01/05/05 04:44 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

very nice, im trying a 50/50 cococoir/verm mix right now, and i was a little inspired by the log the guy posted using the uncle bens minute rice so im gonna try my own little project with some Uncle Bens Brown/White minute rice.


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Re: rye availablity [Re: NOS4A2]
    #3582856 - 01/05/05 05:03 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Wish me luck on my first poo project today! :thumbup: :laugh:

I have some whole brown rice laying somewhere, will try that some time...


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Re: rye availablity [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3582863 - 01/05/05 05:06 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

GL i dont have the confidence for poo yet, still scared of contams. once i get a lil more experinace with casing and alternate substrate mixes ( other than PF,Rye,WBS) id like to try poo out


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Re: rye availablity [Re: NOS4A2]
    #3583390 - 01/05/05 11:12 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I dont think there will be less or more contams if you wait with poo.
Also I am having troubles with RH in my PMP it seems. Casings dont need that high RH as the cakes. With bulk I can increase the substrate by 4. 1 quart of WBS to 4 quarts of bulk.

Actually I did not use the poo, I thought it still smelled to much ammonia after the soak. So I pasteurized plain straw instead and spawned a quart of WBS B+ to it.

My first straw grow!

Good luck with your things,
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Re: rye availablity [Re: NOS4A2]
    #3583404 - 01/05/05 11:18 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

NOS4A2 said:
I use WBS now and it has toomany cracked grains in it so I'm hoping for more consistancy with rye esp. after heating.




Shells and broken grains are not a problem , unless happening becasue too wet and exploding in the pc , or if more than 30% broken prior to pcing . If that keeps happening to you after pc ing it is becasue you are allowing too much water to be absorbed into the grain , not draining properly after soaking .
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