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Offlinelonestar2004
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Will UK surrender to the FOURTH REICH?
    #3575463 - 01/03/05 05:46 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

voters urged to accept EU changes. British voters have been warned they could open up questions about UK relations with other European countries if they reject the EU constitution. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4142219.stm


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama


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Re: Will UK surrender to the FOURTH REICH? [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3575469 - 01/03/05 05:48 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

In other words, be our little bitch or we will bash you like we bash the states.


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We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama


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Re: Will UK surrender to the FOURTH REICH? [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3575819 - 01/03/05 07:18 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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In other words, be our little bitch or we will bash you like we bash the states.



That's laughable, so is your claim that the E.U. would be the Fourth Reich. The previous three Reichs had one leader. Which of the two continental powers has one leader, Europe or the U.S.? Which is more nationalistic, Europe or the U.S.? Which is eager to wage war, Europe or the U.S.?

You're interpreting the article to mean something it does not. If a member of the E.U. doesn't want to advance the E.U., it's only logical that decision would influence internal relationships. The same goes for a couple when one of them doesn't want to get married but they other does, or when one of two business partners doesn't want to sign a contract.


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Re: Will UK surrender to the FOURTH REICH? [Re: Alan Stone]
    #3576355 - 01/03/05 09:22 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

"Which of the two continental powers has one leader, Europe or the U.S.?"

WTF?

NEITHER! damn.

I'd even say that the US President may have less power than the equivilent office in European countries.. I'm not too familiar with all of their governments, however, but the President actually doesn't have all that much power.
Most of the evil horrible things everyone blames Bush for -- have been done with the stamp of approval of the other branches of our government, one of which without such things never could have happened in the first place, and the other without which such things never could have continued.


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Re: Will UK surrender to the FOURTH REICH? [Re: Alan Stone]
    #3576511 - 01/03/05 09:57 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

for centuries Britain foreign policy was to prevent anyone power from dominating the Continent. they refuse to talk of losing sovereignty but rather pooled sovereignty in a Fourth ala Third Reich kinda way.

the UN and the EU are both unaccountable bureaucracies.


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We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama


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Re: Will UK surrender to the FOURTH REICH? [Re: Mushmonkey]
    #3578378 - 01/04/05 08:18 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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I'd even say that the US President may have less power than the equivilent office in European countries..



1) There is no equivalent office on the level of the European Government.
2) In individual countries the leaders (prime ministers and/or presidents) don't have the power to appoint their own staff members, which your president does.


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