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InvisibleSoopaX
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Why are we paying for the tsunami?
    #3573475 - 01/03/05 12:38 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I'll bring up one point here and another point in another thread. Could someone cite for me the Constitutional Amendment that allows the government to use our federal tax dollars for this purpose?

Also, I wonder if someone could post a chart showing how much money the EvilNations? (America and Israel, mainly) are donating and how much the Religion o' Peace nations are donating.


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Re: Why are we paying for the tsunami? [Re: SoopaX]
    #3573487 - 01/03/05 12:42 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Gg


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Re: Why are we paying for the tsunami? [Re: SoopaX]
    #3573495 - 01/03/05 12:43 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

The Constitution has not been followed for a long time...would it really surprise you if it was not followed in this situation?


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Re: Why are we paying for the tsunami? [Re: mabus]
    #3573516 - 01/03/05 12:49 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

whaT?


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Re: Why are we paying for the tsunami? [Re: mabus]
    #3573519 - 01/03/05 12:50 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Huh?


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Re: Why are we paying for the tsunami? [Re: SoopaX]
    #3573523 - 01/03/05 12:52 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

While you're at it show me where the Constitution allows the forming of the DEA and their power.


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Re: Why are we paying for the tsunami? [Re: cb9fl]
    #3573528 - 01/03/05 12:54 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

hah, yea :smile:


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Re: Why are we paying for the tsunami? [Re: SoopaX]
    #3573548 - 01/03/05 12:59 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

ok?


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Re: Why are we paying for the tsunami? [Re: mabus]
    #3573552 - 01/03/05 01:00 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Um. Go for it.

Maybe you could get an education and get a better job? Thats just me with my wild neocon ideas forgive me.


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Re: Why are we paying for the tsunami? [Re: SoopaX]
    #3573785 - 01/03/05 02:06 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Golly, helping all those people whose lives and homes were destroyed sure is a waste of the taxpayers money. How fucking greedy is the government, anyways?  :rolleyes:


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Re: Why are we paying for the tsunami? [Re: Phluck]
    #3573961 - 01/03/05 03:12 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

bless you


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Re: Why are we paying for the tsunami? [Re: SoopaX]
    #3574080 - 01/03/05 04:08 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

believe me if the 50 million kerry voters didnt live in this country, we wouldnt be donating shit...sometimes the right needs to appease the left.


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Re: Why are we paying for the tsunami? [Re: SoopaX]
    #3574184 - 01/03/05 05:08 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

> how much the Religion o' Peace nations are donating.

"President Bush, his administration stung by criticism that its aid pledges were small and slow to materialize, raised the U.S. pledge from $35 million to $350 million. "Our contributions will continue to be revised as the full effects of this terrible tragedy become clearer," he said"


A partial list of the countries pledging aid for tsunami victims totaling nearly $1 billion. The figures are based on U.N. data published last Friday:

? The United States: $350 million (raised on friday from initially $35 million )

? Britain: $95 million

? Sweden: $75.5 million

? Spain: $68 million

? China: $60 million

? France: $57 million

? Australia: $46.7 million

? Canada: $33 million

? Japan: $30 million

? Germany: $27 million

? Switzerland: $21.9 million

? Denmark: $18.1 million

? Norway: $16.6 million

? Portugal: $11 million

? Qatar: $10 million

? Saudi Arabia: $10 million

? Singapore: $3.6 million

? New Zealand: $3.5 million

? Finland: $3.3 million

? Kuwait: $2 million

? United Arab Emirates: $2 million

? Ireland: $1.4 million

? Italy: $1.3 million

Source:
http://www.news-leader.com/_saturday/0101-USraisests-264309.html


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Re: Why are we paying for the tsunami? [Re: Anno]
    #3574362 - 01/03/05 08:17 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Australians has raised over 60 million publicly now also. So add that to our commitment.


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Re: Why are we paying for the tsunami? [Re: Anno]
    #3574650 - 01/03/05 12:25 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Canada switched their pledge to $80 million yesterday (actually, I guess that's more like $66 million american), and have sent their disaster relief team over as well.


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Edited by Phluck (01/03/05 12:25 PM)


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Re: Why are we paying for the tsunami? [Re: Anno]
    #3575196 - 01/03/05 04:03 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

That's a bit old, right now Japan is giving $150 million more than the US.

"Japan increased its pledge of aid from $30 million to $500 million, the largest single nation donation yet. A day earlier, the United States raised its promise of help tenfold to $350 million."
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/news/apress_010105_tsunamiafter.html

US isn't even the top anymore, though it is the most powerful country in the world it is second to Japan in donating. I wonder if this is going to turn into a competition between people


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Re: Why are we paying for the tsunami? [Re: Ravus]
    #3575207 - 01/03/05 04:12 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

japan probably upped their donation because of their proximity to the disaster and their past history
they do face the pacific and all.. it could very well happen to them, and that tends to make people a bit more empathetic


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Re: Why are we paying for the tsunami? [Re: Phluck]
    #3575545 - 01/03/05 06:10 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

If you'd ever been to any of these places, as I have, you'd know that a billion dollars could have "helped" them. If it's so critical that we help other nations, why didn't our founding fathers put that in the Constitution?

If you think that it's so self evident that we need to give these nations money, don't you think that the people would give voluntarily? And if you don't think that they would, do you think it's right for the money to be taken from them by force?


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Re: Why are we paying for the tsunami? [Re: SoopaX]
    #3576498 - 01/03/05 09:54 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

personally i think that most of these types of things are more for making the giving country look better than to actually help. sure its nice, but in my opinion its mostly ego.

i agree with soopa that they could have used this money before. there still is lots of other countries that can really use some help. to me a pair of extra hands is far more valueble than a coupld thousand dollars. it is after all people that make such efforts cost so much. if we volunteered down the line we could completely restore tehm for free. little far fetched but i think we can help a lot more than jsut sending money. be cool if airlines had free flights for people going over to volounteer their time and help people. anyway.


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Re: Why are we paying for the tsunami? [Re: SoopaX]
    #3576720 - 01/03/05 10:48 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Yup Kaka,

We are paying for it, so we may get some GOOD PR for a change.

Even conservatives will pay for a chance to FIX AMERICA'S GLOBAL IMAGE.

I expect America will be the BIGGEST donor when all is said and done. We can't afford not to be.

So far, Bush is doing a BETTER job this time around (than with his first 4 years). Isn't it nice to finally WIN an election, Dubbya?


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