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dunk 6-12hrs AND THEN roll or just dunk to get wet? *DELETED*
    #3572088 - 01/02/05 07:12 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: dunk 6-12hrs AND THEN roll or just dunk to get wet? [Re: LuvWallyWorld]
    #3572116 - 01/02/05 07:18 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

The initial dunk(6-12hrs) is to cold shock the cakes into fruiting and also to rehydrate them. Any dunks inbetween flushes should be done under warmer temps than the initial dunk. Since the cakes are rehydrated and wet the dry verm sticks nicely.


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Re: dunk 6-12hrs AND THEN roll or just dunk to get wet? [Re: LuvWallyWorld]
    #3572231 - 01/02/05 07:40 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

^^^what he said. you dunk to make it as wet as it can be, so most people use 12h or so. a little less or more is no problem. word on the street is right in that no cubensis needs a cold shock (or a dunk). coldshocks are used to initiate pinning - easy with cubensis. the dunk just helps you get big flushes.

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Re: dunk 6-12hrs AND THEN roll or just dunk to get wet? [Re: shirley knott]
    #3572477 - 01/02/05 08:22 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

i cold shocked and dunked for @24 hours with my first births -- i dont think the cold shocking had any effect but let me tell you the difference b/w the dunked cakes i did and the cakes i didnt dunk. i had about 1 or 2 mushies from non dunked and handfuls from the dunked. let me see if i can get the pics up --- moral dunk all the way!!! (i couldnt believe the difference it made)


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Re: dunk 6-12hrs AND THEN roll or just dunk to get wet? [Re: PsycAura]
    #3572627 - 01/02/05 08:50 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I agree dunking makes all the difference in the world! I recommend 24hrs. on initial dunk and it certainly doesn't hurt them one bit if it's in the fridge when ya do it. Dunking between flushes only needs to be 12+/-. Many people have theories on "cold shocking" I'm a firm believer BIGTIME in using your pinning triggers all of them IN COINCIDENCE with each other, this is what produces the best flushes. Introduction of light along with a much lower CO2 concentration (fresh air exchanges) and 100% substrate colonization combined with a temperature drop of 8-10 degrees "cold shocking". It is also my opinion that this temp drop can be made to better shock the myc into it's fruiting mode if done rapidly. I also believe that when done in the fridge helps stall the veg growth which sometimes with more aggressive strains can lead to overlay conditions. Bottom line dunk. GL


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Re: dunk 6-12hrs AND THEN roll or just dunk to get wet? [Re: hyphae]
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Re: dunk 6-12hrs AND THEN roll or just dunk to get wet? [Re: PsycAura]
    #3573104 - 01/02/05 10:49 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

those links don't work


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Re: dunk 6-12hrs AND THEN roll or just dunk to get wet? [Re: balls]
    #3573110 - 01/02/05 10:51 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I also have my cakes in water as I speak, and have been for 10 hours. I will be taking them out and putting them back into the fruiting chamber to be under light overnight. How long until I should expect pins? This is the second flush, and im curious to know how long until I see more pins. Also what is the chance that I have a bigger flush? After I roll the whole surface of the cake do I mist it down ?


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Re: dunk 6-12hrs AND THEN roll or just dunk to get wet? [Re: LuvWallyWorld]
    #3573177 - 01/02/05 11:18 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I did a little test a few years back. What I did was do up 90 cakes. 45 dunked and shocked and 45 just dunked with no shock. Everyone of the shocked cakes fruied before everyone of the unshocked by two days.

Strain used was South Americans


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