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The jews are torturing me.
    #3571291 - 01/02/05 02:29 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

The jews run this David Lawrence Center facility. Where they are putting us on medicines that we don't even need. I think they are torturing me because i'm part german. Right now i'm being starved.

If you think the jewish people are friendly, think again.

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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: Droz]
    #3571315 - 01/02/05 02:41 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

" The important thing is to be able at any moment to sacrifice what we are for what we could be. "

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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: Gomp]
    #3571365 - 01/02/05 02:53 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

i am friendly enough until faced with a potentialy racist thread, at which point I slow down to find out what is actually happenning.

are you in for detox? are you sure the problem is external?
are you certain the reason for the problem is your heritage and theirs?
most of this should be water under the bridge.
you must come out, I think you are close to help not set up for more problems. the thing about jews for you is probably baggage that can be lightened. let them know. live. survivors let go of the past.


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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: Droz]
    #3571841 - 01/02/05 04:26 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Don't tell me...you're been dual diagnosed with a substance abuse problem AND a personality disorder - say Paranoid Personality Disorder?


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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #3572314 - 01/02/05 05:57 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Droz, this might not be in your head. Isreal is having serious problems with its arab neighbors now and they are extremely agressive. Your German heritage might be included in the witch hunt they are currently doing. You need to find the exit signs in your hospital station. Go thru it. Keep going and get out of there. Contact any non-jewish family members and tell them what happened at the "center". Good luck and remember you will survive this.


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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #3572315 - 01/02/05 05:57 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

My diagnoses is skitzo-effective. Paranoid skitzophrenic on one hand and a mood disorder on the other. It's pretty difficult to face, sometimes I say things that I don't mean. Like this thread, shouldn't have been created but it was.

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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #3572334 - 01/02/05 06:00 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

i'm confused...if you think all this is cuz ur german....than maybe it's because (potentially) your ancestors almost created genocide with the hollocost <--sp.) hey! karma-karma-karma cameleon!! and maybe just maybe....you're there cuz you need help bro., unless your name is Eckstein or close to it...how do they know you're part german? ....cuz i'd possibly make some ignorant racist chemically dependant fool skip a few meals, if he popped off with the mouth about how he's German and how i'm a lowsy jew.... i can't possibly see how for no other reason than the fact that you are a little bit german they would starve ya. i think you're not telling us the whole story...
BTY im part german and have more than one very good, very considerate friends who are jewish. so don't talk shit about them K?


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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: uriahchase]
    #3572356 - 01/02/05 06:03 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Droz, you are free from any guilt germans did to jews. Jews killed just as easily as germans did. Get out of that jew trap. NOW.

If you were in a nazi trap, and you were a jew, I'd tell you to get out of the nazi trap, NOW.


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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: mabus]
    #3572523 - 01/02/05 06:32 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I'm on meds and sometimes, just sometimes, strange stuff happens to me like this for starters. I don't hate the jews, but I do feel that they hate me for some reason. I feel as if all the hate is being collected inside of me and I have to deal with it. Like someone was shoving all the hatred in the world my way.

Adema - "Set me out, set me out, god has turned his back on me"

Peace,
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P.S. Just because i'm on meds doesn't mean i can't see these things as being real. These dillusions in my realm are very real and very hard to deal with. So cope with me here.


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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: Droz]
    #3572651 - 01/02/05 06:57 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

The war against the arabs of Iraq which i was in for bush ONE lasted 72 hours. After everyone gave up it was over. I'm sure if the jews wanted to get rid of the arabs they could do it in 36 hours. Whatever they are doing is only to influence your actions for their plans of the end times. They have no real end time enemy as their phrophets predicted and need to drag the whole world all in to make it happen. If you think I'm wrong ask yourself why we are not in africa.

GET THE HELL OUT OF THAT JEW CENTER! NOW


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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: mabus]
    #3573532 - 01/02/05 10:54 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Hate sucks. People who hate suffer.


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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: mabus]
    #3573537 - 01/02/05 10:56 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

K,
well at the start of this thread I thought I had problems with Droz. If it is your disorder and/or meds then I do not have feelings of animosity against you. If you need to talk this out, I will listen.

I just spent 4 months living with a bunch of Germans (amongst many other random cultures) and I never had a problem with them. And try as I did and failed miserably there were 2 really attractive women in that crew....

Israel may have problems with Arabs, but Germans that is the past. In fact Germans make up a large percentage of tourists in Israel. Arabs, well they are a whole other bag of beans. In general North American Jews do not have a problem with Arabs, they are a tolerant bunch. And if you are a paying customer, then you are their best friend (I kid you not). The ultra-orthodox(Hasidic Jews)tend to be less tolerant, but I doubt that if you are not Jewish you would have any dealings with them. I was brought up orthodox and they barely consider me Jewish.

I hope you get well man so that in the future we can gab over this forum. I like your posts. I am very intolerant to intolerance, so I am hoping for no bad air between us.

Have a safe journey through life,
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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: mabus]
    #3573594 - 01/02/05 11:11 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Wow.. I think you've got some issues there buddy.

First of all, you contradict yourself. You say that Droz is free of guilt by association from German misdeeds, yet flaunt the blame you place on the people working in the "Jew Center." Has it occurred to you that not all Jews are Israelis? By the same token that Americans place blame on all Arabs (Muslims are NOT the same thing as Arabs, although Arabs may be Muslims), you have made a rather large error.

I, for one, am "jewish" (by lineage.. my mother is jewish) and my girlfriend of 3 years is German. There are no problems between us or our families.

If Droz is truly being mistreated, I can understand the advice to leave. If the staff is of mixed ethnicities and religions, which it most likely is, then the label Jew Center is extremely misgiven. To play Devil's Advocate with myself, if the "Jewish" employees, exclusively, are mistreating Droz, there may well be something to your ranting. But I doubt that that is the case.


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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: franco_on]
    #3573614 - 01/02/05 11:16 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

This is really sad that you need to scapegoat a whole race of people for some instances of abuse. Maybe these people are just generally mean...maybe you're making it up in your head...possibly they don't know you're even part German. It is unfortunate they are abusing you if they are. Reflect on all of this, & get well.
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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: Droz]
    #3574341 - 01/03/05 05:46 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, well, the late columnist Ann Landers said once that "we all have thoughts that would make the devil blush," but we don't say everything that comes to mind. Your statement is just simple bigotry, no brainer here. BTW, I made an off-the-cuff diagnostic suggestion based on your statement - not a real diagnosis. It does not reflect any of the eccentrities of Schizoaffective Disorder, nor is there enough data to suggest Schizophrenia, paranoid type. There is, however, sufficient wordage to piss-off the average Jew - especially if [s]he isn't a mental health professional.


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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: Droz]
    #3574561 - 01/03/05 09:28 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm on meds and sometimes, just sometimes, strange stuff happens to me like this for starters. I don't hate the jews, but I do feel that they hate me for some reason. I feel as if all the hate is being collected inside of me and I have to deal with it. Like someone was shoving all the hatred in the world my way.




Droz, listen up.

THose strange things are delusions belonging to your mental state. Typical psychotic delusions are the feeling of being watched, talked about, people reading your thoughts, forces controlling you and outrageous conspiracies.

In concensus reality nobody can shove all the hatred of the world your way. You may feel hated by some and perhaps correctly so, but the things you are writing are classical textbook examples of delusions that can occur as symptoms of the illness, and you get medication to ease those thoughts.

I know side-effects suck ASS but it is a good idea to realize you are still experiencing strong warping of your sense of reality and to discuss this with your doctor. I think changes in your medication are in order. You can only combat psychotic delusions with education AND medication. Please get back with us in concensus reality again and

please do not take recreational drugs or pharms you are not prescribed. Psychedelics in this case can only drift you furter away from feeling good after the trip because there is BIOLOGICALLY something wrong in your brain, not your mind.
Only antipsychotics can remedy the progress of psychosis once it has begun. Do not let this get out of hand but seek out the doctor you trust and tell him your beliefs. He will likely say the same things I do and change your medication because the brain disease psychosis creates thought patterns like that just like LSD makes patterns in the carpet. You need comforting, human comforting and chemical comforting by the appropriate people, drugs and regimens.


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Where they are putting us on medicines that we don't even need.




Please take your medications again and look for a doctor that you CAN trust. If you stopped those unpleasant pills you will only feel more confused, more weird things will happen and you will get more scared then you now are. I know those medicines suck but you need them and need to get back on them. If you are off them now then you are experiencing a relapse. If you think you do not need those pills then just take them anyway and I'm convinced you will thank me in a month or two when the world is more easy to understand and less frightening then it is now. Those pills take away the fear after some time, and then you will see that many things you believed were fueled by fear and not by good thinking.

I am not a doctor. But only a doctor can say you should stop taking those pills. So take them and look for a doctor or a hospital you trust. Do not let the fear and confusion become your master, so take the correct dosage of those pills to help you fight the fear and confusion.


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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: Asante]
    #3574570 - 01/03/05 09:37 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, but i still hear those christian voices and still see their cross laying over top my head as they damn me for being different. Don't tell me this shit isn't real. I can tell the difference.

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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #3574573 - 01/03/05 09:38 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Good Markos, may the jews be pissed and the masses be enlightened.

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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: Droz]
    #3574661 - 01/03/05 10:35 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

whatever you experience is real is some way
try not to fit it all into the old maps into other peoples maps
we need more open more personal maps that accommodate what we experience.
differences are most important.
stories that leave nothing out are important.
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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: Droz]
    #3574903 - 01/03/05 12:03 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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Droz said:
Good Markos, may the jews be pissed and the masses be enlightened.




I don't get that at all...
You might wanna reread his posts.  :confused: :smirk:


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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: RainbowDrops]
    #3575729 - 01/03/05 04:55 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Yes...quite so RainbowDrops...I don't get the response either, but then I do not wish to enter fully into anyone's delusional nightmare. Moreover, I AM a Jew and I am just as tired as anyone who is listening to the abysmal ignorance of bigotry, which is after all, a product of a delusional mind. I am a Jew, and I am enlightened (relative to how I used to be), and as a doctor, I am not pissed at someone's symptomology, just dismayed (considering how damaging it has been when whole nations go mad with this kind of sickness).


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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: mabus]
    #3575760 - 01/03/05 05:01 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Your problem seems more significant, given the emotional tone of your words. Haters do not belong in an S&P forum and a moderator needs to step in just about now - if one is paying attention.

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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #3575783 - 01/03/05 05:09 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Markos - where do you get off by first trying to point out that I have an illness of some sort, maybe your gnostic ways need to be relooked at. I'm not a 'hater' I was only pointing out that the jewish were torturing me. Simple as that.

How do i become the hater when the jews were torturing me? How? Explain it to me.


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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: Droz]
    #3575789 - 01/03/05 05:11 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I too have a friend who is jewish and he is a doctor at the David Lawrence Center. But still I was tortured. Where do you get off with your ways trying to always say it's some kind of illness.


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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: Droz]
    #3575825 - 01/03/05 05:19 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Well to start off I was being helped by the jews but some reason I am more arragont then ever. Some reason they try to point out that I look more chatalic then i do jewish. But i still don't understand, is it because of my angry side that makes them want to put me down as catholic. I don't understand Markos. I really don't. But they indeed do try to control me. I use to be a really good caring person, but I have gotten way out of line. I only wish the jewish could appreciate me for who I am. I am a good person, I am. I am.

Markos sorry for this post if it has offended you in any way. I don't mean to make posts that make us lead to anger, not at all. But anyhow, back to what I was doing.

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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: Droz]
    #3575855 - 01/03/05 05:27 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry for the delay, i forgot i had hybrided with a catholic boy. I'm jewish.
Markos, nice to meet you.


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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: Droz]
    #3575892 - 01/03/05 05:34 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Haldol is your friend.

Droz, you are displaying all the signs of delusions. If you will google delusions you will see the types of things you are stating being used as examples, even in books from before you were born.

What I want to know is what medication did they give and more importantly if you are still taking it like you should.

Me, personally, I havbe got a supercharged brain. I'm neurologically different and you can basically say some people take speed to feel like I do 24/7.

To remedy this I use 2mg Haldol. I use antipsychotic medications because even 10 valiums can't slow me down. I know the side effdects can suck but what you really need is some clarity of thought and less fear.

Are you still taking your medication?
This may be the most important question of your life.

You are confused and scared to the point you fail to recognise that "I'm german and the jews wanna torture me" does not make one win the popularity contest and more importantly it needs some clarification.

How do you feel you are being tortured by the jews?

I am not a jew but I really believe you need a depot injection of Haldol up the keister so you will be delivered from your internal demons.

If you respect my postings then heed my words: you are delusional.
I am not saying nothing is true but I am saying you need medication of the same type I use voluntarily to keep me from feeling too good, because you feel to bad.

Don't use psychedelics or street drugs and don't let some people here scare you even more.


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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: Droz]
    #3575905 - 01/03/05 05:37 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

i see you clearly droz; also I see Markos and the rest.
it's OK. - I think you are managing.

people need to understand that there is more thanjust talk here

using terms like "delusion" are not exactly useful since in labelling like that, a form of opposition duality is expressed.

droz is just like us and droz is stressed by a condition.

the best way to get it is like droz has a bit of an internal drip of a kind of drug that is hard to ride, but he is doing it. we know what that is like, and that is why the post came here.

the jewish thing is secondary, did I forget, I am jewish too - so what?!?

the thing is, droz came here 'cause our eyes dangle from our sockets sometimes and he can tell it's ok, cause we are supposed to remember what it's like when there is something hard to ride happenning.

just read wiccan_seeker, and if he is right, well you would know better than me, the advisement is a friendly one. either way, i think you are a mensch.


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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: Droz]
    #3576376 - 01/03/05 07:27 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

1) You are not being tortured. Torture victims are not allowed to play on computers to tell the world that they are being tortured. You are being treated, and you do not like the treatment, so you are calling it torture.

2) Your doctors may or may not be Jewish. I believe that you are projecting onto them. It is irrelevant what their culture or religion is - they are doctors first. I am NOT relating to you as a Gnostic in this post.

3) It is evident to others in this forum, who are NOT doctors, that you are suffering from delusions. I am speaking to you as a mental health professional in this post, not as a Jew. BTW, I received Baptism in a Roman Catholic Church when I was 23 years old. I then received a Master of Theological Studies degree from a United Methodist seminary. I went on to earn a Ph.D. in developmental and clinical psychology, get licensed, and then certified in specialty areas. That is where I "get off" telling you that your perceptions of what is relevant and real lies not where YOU think. YOUR thinking is, unfortunately, quite distorted at the present time, so listen to some of kinder folk here at the Shroomery - NOT the people who throw more hateful fuel on the delusional fire in your mind.

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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #3576434 - 01/03/05 07:39 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I cannot believe that the moderators would ban someone who is causing dissent through disputing spiritual beliefs, but some guy can show up and preach hate and bigotry and it is allowed to continue without pause even though it is a clear violation of The Shroomery S&P rules. I find this horribly offensive that bigotry and hate are promoted here. As you said Markos the mods should step in...why have they not?


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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #3577090 - 01/03/05 10:09 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

DROZ..you..need help cuz ur like two seconds away from padded white walls,and a complamentary jacket.


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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: uriahchase]
    #3577326 - 01/03/05 10:53 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

maybe the fact that your paranoid schizophrenic has something to do with the fact that your having dillusional thoughts....
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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: incubaby_421]
    #3577807 - 01/04/05 12:45 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

No, what none of you understand is the fact that i'm percieving something different then any of you. I was not in the hospital either, I was at home. Secondly, I don't believe in skizophrenia. Knowing that these doctors like to subdue people into believing that have such illnesses that they don't. Giving them hallucinations then diagnosing them on drugs. As if drugs were the cure to this ever ongoing illness they so say i have.

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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: Droz]
    #3577823 - 01/04/05 12:50 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Markos i see how you can so easily pin this off as a dilusion. Since the post wasn't directed at you but seeing your response shows it and the simple fact that the word Jew was posted in the thread, and you telling me that you are jewish. Somehow you feel so easily compeled to respond. Yes it was the jewish people that had everything to do with it and yes i was being tortured. So if i have to hate I will.


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Re: The jews are torturing me. [Re: uriahchase]
    #3577832 - 01/04/05 12:51 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

UriahChase - maybe you need to find a new thread to post worthless information in.

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