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Help with Copelandia
    #3568246 - 01/01/05 03:40 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Hi Cultivation Forum. Happy new year!

I'm planning to try to cultivate some Pan cyans from a spore print a bought three years ago from Sporeworks. It will be my first attempt with this species. I plan to use a poo/grass seed/ vermiculite mixture to make PF style cakes.

I'm hoping that I can purchase what i need from Lowe's garden center.

Questions:

1) Can I use the bagged cow manure fertilizer?

2) What type of grass seed works best.

3) Would it increase yields to add some millet to the mix?


Thanks for any help.


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Re: Help with Copelandia [Re: shroomydan]
    #3568272 - 01/01/05 03:52 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)


1) Can I use the bagged cow manure fertilizer?

its better to get it from a pasture

2) What type of grass seed works best.

perinial rye grass, rince it a few times

3) Would it increase yields to add some millet to the mix?

probably not... you could do a sampling and find out.


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Re: Help with Copelandia [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3568292 - 01/01/05 04:05 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks Prisoner#1

I think I'm going to try with the bagged poo anyway. I don't have access to a pasture, and would rather not go on any covert shit steeling missions.  :smirk:

I will let you all know if it works or not.


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Re: Help with Copelandia [Re: shroomydan]
    #3568297 - 01/01/05 04:11 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I have no X-perience with poo at all, but all I read about bagged cow manure, from garden stores and such, is shit! :P


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Re: Help with Copelandia [Re: shroomydan]
    #3568308 - 01/01/05 04:21 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

if you descide on fresh, I have horse readily available and cow poo
is just a few skips away, horse poo would probably work better


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Re: Help with Copelandia [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3568390 - 01/01/05 05:33 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Well I can get fresh horse poo.  :laugh:

I'll just go out to some local horse trails and pick up road apples. I just checked at Lowe's, and they have perennial rye grass. It looks like I will be able to get started tomorrow.

Thanks again.


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Re: Help with Copelandia [Re: shroomydan]
    #3570263 - 01/02/05 08:25 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

road apples lol

good luck shroomydan  :thumbup: i've been trying with this species for over two years now - i hope you have better success then i did  :laugh:

tips i have learned the hard way : don't shake the growing substrate / make sure you have pan cyan instead of psil cyan / don't let cats stick their paw in it / no nutes in the casing layer / no spraying after pins appear / if you spawn to bulk, don't make it difficult for them - only spawn at 1:5 or less / if at first you don't succeed, try try again


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Re: Help with Copelandia [Re: shirley knott]
    #3572485 - 01/02/05 08:24 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

OK, so today i went out and collected a big bag of steamy fresh horse poo, and I'm ready to load some jars for sterilization.

After examining the poo it looks like it contains enough undigested plant matter that there will be no need to add grass seed.

A couple more questions:

1) The poo is already really moist so I don't think I need to add any water, infact it looks a little too moist. Should I add enough vermiculite to make it the same consistency as normal PF substrate, or is it optimum for Cope growth the way it came out the horse's ass?

2) I've never used a PC to sterilize horse poo before. How long should it go and at what setting, 5, 10, or 15?

Thanks for the help.


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Re: Help with Copelandia [Re: shroomydan]
    #3572551 - 01/02/05 08:36 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

first, only ever use your pc at 15psi. anything else just needs more time.
second, fresh poo usually needs a soak to get rid of the ammonia in it.
third, read this: poo 101


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Re: Help with Copelandia [Re: shroomydan]
    #3573073 - 01/02/05 10:41 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

you'll want to lay that poo out if it isnt crusty and grey looking,
it should only take a couple of weeks to dry and leach properly,
after it dries, break it up into small pieces and it will also
have some plant matter since horses arent ruminants (4 stomaches)

sterilize your grass seed after soaking/simmering and knock up your
jars with the spores/cultures, after they colonize (while the poo leaches)
you should pastuerize it instead of sterilizing it and after it cools
you layer a pan with the poo, break up your rye grass jars then add a
layer to the poo pan, add another layer of poo, cover and incubate...


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Re: Help with Copelandia [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3573260 - 01/02/05 11:44 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

i use a 444 mixture that works great and its all store bought.
its
4 cups ground straw
4 cups of compost
4 cups of chopped straw
4 cups of verm
seems that this recipe gives me perfect density . then i just case with a compost/verm mixture . 40/60 mix.i can make 3 1/1 trays with this recipe .


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