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OfflineBlueOrb
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21 days and still no pins....Help!
    #3564584 - 12/31/04 10:34 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

21 Days and still have no pins.....This is a problem that I consistantly experience. What am I doing wrong?

Strain=Amazonian
Temp range=68-75degreesC
Terrarium=heated propergater
Fanning 3x per day
Misting 2x per day
aprox 7xhours natural day light

So what the F**K am I doing wrong

This is a problem I keep experiencing, and I am sure it is having a detremental effect on second flushes on previous grows.

Please help!


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Re: 21 days and still no pins....Help! [Re: BlueOrb]
    #3564586 - 12/31/04 10:37 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

gotta pic? cakes or cased?


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Re: 21 days and still no pins....Help! [Re: shirley knott]
    #3564588 - 12/31/04 10:38 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

No pics
Cakes


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Re: 21 days and still no pins....Help! [Re: BlueOrb]
    #3564589 - 12/31/04 10:39 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

humid enough? you want 95%+ for pinning


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Re: 21 days and still no pins....Help! [Re: shirley knott]
    #3564594 - 12/31/04 10:43 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

condensation on sides and top of terrarium, heavy misting twice per day


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Re: 21 days and still no pins....Help! [Re: BlueOrb]
    #3564595 - 12/31/04 10:45 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

do you always use this strain? some take longer than others, but it sounds like you have humidity, light, temp and air exchange covered. no harm in increasing the fanning, but it sounds like something else in your environment, or a strain thing.

they do fruit eventually, though?


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Re: 21 days and still no pins....Help! [Re: shirley knott]
    #3564602 - 12/31/04 10:50 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

It is the same situation every grow regardless of strain...I have tried b+ F+ Thai

May it be that the cakes were not fully colonised inside before birthing?

I have just grown another batch of cakes with slightly less water content, and they have colonised much faster than previous grows. Could too much water have been an issue?


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Re: 21 days and still no pins....Help! [Re: BlueOrb]
    #3564603 - 12/31/04 10:52 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

you got it. the time from birthing is based on it being fully colonised.
better water content > faster growth > faster full colonisation > faster pinning.


you don't need me, dude, you got it  :thumbup:

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Re: 21 days and still no pins....Help! [Re: shirley knott]
    #3564607 - 12/31/04 10:54 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks shirleyknott


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Re: 21 days and still no pins....Help! [Re: BlueOrb]
    #3564696 - 12/31/04 11:32 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

68-75? C Is like extrememly hot isnt it?


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Re: 21 days and still no pins....Help! [Re: BlueOrb]
    #3564698 - 12/31/04 11:32 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

68-75? C Is like extrememly hot isnt it? 12/12 lighting might speed it up a little more too


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Re: 21 days and still no pins....Help! [Re: collegeshroom]
    #3564810 - 12/31/04 12:11 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

ya its like 160 fahrenheit... hopefully he didnt mean celsius.


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Re: 21 days and still no pins....Help! [Re: fearfect]
    #3564825 - 12/31/04 12:16 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

84-86 farenheit is ideal isnt it?


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Re: 21 days and still no pins....Help! [Re: fearfect]
    #3564826 - 12/31/04 12:16 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Sorry, I meant fahrenheit!

Would more light help?


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Re: 21 days and still no pins....Help! [Re: BlueOrb]
    #3566998 - 01/01/05 01:08 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

More light and more air would help. 12-18 hours of light for pinning then 2-6 once pins form. You may also be overmisting...to much water on casings will promote vegatative growth and slow pinning IME, I'd guess cakes are the same..they end up just fluffing out. Optimal fresh air exchange is something like 3-6 exchanges per HOUR...for optimal automation is needed. I also think the temp fluctuations arent helping so much but this is the least of your problems and I'd look at the other things first as being possible issues. You sure the heater isnt making it fluctuate even more then that too? Never feels warm in there? Well good luck...I've grown amazons (but on casings) and they werent particularly fast..but certainly not slow.


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Re: 21 days and still no pins....Help! [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3567017 - 01/01/05 01:13 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

what is up scat...got my little shroom machine going...


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