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    #3563035 - 12/30/04 10:55 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Smoking syrian rue? [Re: RRhoads]
    #3563165 - 12/30/04 11:40 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Yes, yes, yes, it is a short term MAOI and heals the ills of depression, from drugs or otherwise. I understand that it is a quick remedy for the jitters associated with cocaine, and mellows it out. I would recommend the smoking of it to those suffering from depression over SSRIs, but I am no physician. I smoke it occasionally to ease tention.

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Re: Smoking syrian rue? [Re: M_S_Smith]
    #3563173 - 12/30/04 11:43 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

is that the seeds or plant matter?  im assuming seeds, but need to know :smile:


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Re: Smoking syrian rue? [Re: M_S_Smith]
    #3563287 - 12/31/04 12:11 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Seeds and plant matter.

Here is an extraction tek that was taken from http://nepenthes.lycaeum.org/GandZ/beta-carb.html

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We used the same extraction technique for all three plants. We had developed this technique for smoking the passion flower to potentiate Psilocybian mushrooms (see below) and wished to have the data from this set of experiments be comparable. The technique was a two-stage extraction. The first extraction used was a boiling alcohol (we used vodka) and water infusion followed by a second extraction using boiled distilled water. Each infusion was boiled for several hours. A "slow cooker" is ideal for this. In the case of the caapi, the bark was peeled off in strips first. For the syrian rue, we first ground the seeds very fine. For both the passion flower and the caapi, the second extract was essentially clear and seemed unnecessary. However, in the case of the syrian rue, the second extract was a bright cloudy yellow which may indicate harmine in solution.

The plant material was strained and compressed after each extraction. the liquids from the two extractions were combined and dried using low heat on the slow cooker. The result was a brown caramally mass for both the passion flower and caapi. The weight was about 20% of the original for the passion flower and the rue, and about 45% for the caapi. Except in the case of the passion flower, we cannot see any clear advantages of extraction over that of smoking the original plant material due to the relatively minor concentration of the amount needed to smoke. A plain water infusion would also seem to be just as effective in removing the harmine and would result in less of the other plant components being extracted.

The syrian rue extract was the most interesting. It actually had long, thin, yellowish crystals in a brownish, red, hard, clear matrix which was not at all gooey like the other two extracts. This is not surprising given the assumed concentration of beta-carboline alkaloids. Based on our rough averaging from a variety of sources, our up-front beta-carboline concentration estimates for the plant materials were as follows:

Plant; % beta-Carbolines; Ratio (syrian rue=1)
Rue; 2.0 - 4.0%; 1
Caapi; 0.1%; 20
Passion flower; 0.05 - 0.1%; 40





It makes smoking rue all that much easier since you may end up smoking alot of plant matter for the desired inhibiting effects.


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Re: Smoking syrian rue? [Re: M_S_Smith]
    #3564748 - 12/31/04 11:50 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Please, don't mix SSRI's and MAOI's, Please!


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Re: Smoking syrian rue? [Re: biglo]
    #3565548 - 12/31/04 03:27 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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Please, don't mix SSRI's and MAOI's, Please!




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Re: Smoking syrian rue? [Re: biglo]
    #3565754 - 12/31/04 05:09 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

he said he prefers Syrian Rue (an MAOI) OVER SSRI's, that is he prefers to use an MAOI instead of Prozac, not both in concert.

There are prescription MAOI's like Deprenyl that are equally as effective, but you don't get the manual dosage tweakage you can get with self-medicated smoking.


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Re: Smoking syrian rue? [Re: neuro]
    #3565825 - 12/31/04 05:43 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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I would recommend the smoking of it to those suffering from depression over SSRIs





ahh...I mistakenly took this to mean he recommended smoking rue to alleviate some odd depression caused by SSRIs.


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Re: Smoking syrian rue? [Re: RRhoads]
    #3565866 - 12/31/04 05:59 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

You might become an immortal.

Beware.

Do not take this lightly.


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Re: Smoking syrian rue? [Re: Somaism]
    #3565886 - 12/31/04 06:05 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

That wouldn't have anything to do with soma would it?


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Re: Smoking syrian rue? [Re: BorgFace]
    #3565937 - 12/31/04 06:19 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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That wouldn't have anything to do with soma would it?




Yes its about the magic flesh. What I call 'Soma'.

Many names have been used.


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Re: Smoking syrian rue? [Re: RRhoads]
    #10330930 - 05/13/09 05:33 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I know this thread is old as hell, but i had to ask... what is it like to smoking rue? taste?


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Re: Smoking syrian rue? [Re: SurReality]
    #10331213 - 05/13/09 08:35 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

its tastes very very nasty :crazy2:
  but it works


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Re: Smoking syrian rue? [Re: cpw1971]
    #10331215 - 05/13/09 08:37 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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its tastes very very nasty :crazy2:
  but it works




Works in what way? I've only used syrian rue as an MAOI, so what effects could one expect from smoking it?


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Re: Smoking syrian rue? [Re: drift]
    #10338297 - 05/14/09 04:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

well if you smoke enough you can get the light Harmine Freebase feeling....
  when you turn your head everything is a trail for a second ect....
  then theres what Terrence Mckenna called "Vegetable TV".....
  after you start coming down from a mushroom peak you smoke about a bowl of Rue.
  I guess it gives you some pretty good OEV's that are very enjoyable to just sit back and watch.


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Re: Smoking syrian rue? [Re: cpw1971]
    #10338466 - 05/14/09 05:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

What happens if you smoke Rue before smoking DMT or if you smoke them together?


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Re: Smoking syrian rue? [Re: lwheidt]
    #10338499 - 05/14/09 05:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I've heard ingesting (or smoking?) a MAOI prior to smoking DMT makes the trip lasts a few more minutes (I've heard around 7mins vs 3-4mins without a maoi)


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Re: Smoking syrian rue? [Re: jds]
    #10338739 - 05/14/09 06:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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HellDragon said:
I've heard ingesting (or smoking?) a MAOI prior to smoking DMT makes the trip lasts a few more minutes (I've heard around 7mins vs 3-4mins without a maoi)




Confirmed.


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