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I hate stupid people!!!
    #3561691 - 12/30/04 04:09 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I need to get my propane tank filled up. I have a 250 gallon tank. You can only fill a propane tank to 80%(because of possible gas expansion), so that means the max capacity of propane that should be in my tank is 200 gallons. My tank has a guage on it that says the percentage of gas that is in the tank. My guage is at 18% right now.

So, I need to figure out how many gallons I have in the tank right now, subtract that from 200, and the resulting number is how many gallons I need to purchase. 18% of 250 is 45. So, that means I need to buy 155 gallons in order to get to 200 gallons. Another way to check it would be 80% - 18% = 62%.... .62 * 250 = 155

So, anybody with a third grade education can now understand that I need to purchase 155 gallons of propane in order to get my tank to the standard 80% capacity.

So, I call the propane company. I say I need to get it filled. The lady says I need 164 gallons in order to fill my tank. I say, "I think your math is wrong". The bitch gets PISSED and says, "this is how WE do it". Her error is so obvious... She understands that I need to get to 200 gallons, and then she tries to figure out how much I have in there right now. She takes 18% of 200 instead of 250. She comes out with 36. She thinks I have 36 gallons in my tank, so I need to purchase 164 gallons to get to 200. I try to sit there and explain her mistake, but she has absolutely NO fucking clue when I try to explain it to her.

I wish I could just remove people from the gene pool.


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Re: I hate stupid people!!! [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3561721 - 12/30/04 04:19 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Hank Hill = k3y


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Re: I hate stupid people!!! [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3561726 - 12/30/04 04:20 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Start shooting

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Re: I hate stupid people!!! [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3561731 - 12/30/04 04:21 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

They're still a place of business, so shouldn't they sell you however much you want?


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Re: I hate stupid people!!! [Re: ivi]
    #3561733 - 12/30/04 04:21 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

just say "BITCH i wanna buy 155 gallons" that way she cant over fill your tank.


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Re: I hate stupid people!!! [Re: sui]
    #3561818 - 12/30/04 04:43 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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suimush said:
just say "BITCH go back to 3rd grade math. im right, youre wrong. give me 155 gallons....BITCH"




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Re: I hate stupid people!!! [Re: wrestler_az]
    #3561822 - 12/30/04 04:45 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

wrestler_az said:
Quote:

suimush said:
just say "BITCH go back to 3rd grade math. im right, youre wrong. give me 155 gallons....BITCH"







i like this one better


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Re: I hate stupid people!!! [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3561894 - 12/30/04 04:58 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Your maths is wrong, her maths is correct.

The tank takes 250 gallons. It's 18% full, so it has 45 gallons in it. So, you need to fill 250 gallons minus 45 gallons, you have to fill 205 gallons.

Now, instead of buying 205 gallons, you have to accomodate for the gas expansion of 20%. So you find 80% of 205 gallons, (205/100 x 85) and you get 164 gallons.

Your mistake was to forget that the gas inside the tank has already expanded, so when you worked out that you needed to put 200 gallons into your tank to allow for expansion, you forgot that the gas in the tank had already done so.

I think you should phone this woman and apologise.


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Re: I hate stupid people!!! [Re: OJK]
    #3561904 - 12/30/04 05:01 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

.. and the plot thickens :evil:


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Re: I hate stupid people!!! [Re: OJK]
    #3561924 - 12/30/04 05:06 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

but its january....it hasnt expanded that much yet...well, soon to be january


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Re: I hate stupid people!!! [Re: wrestler_az]
    #3561938 - 12/30/04 05:11 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Ahh- you raise a good point; if the gas expansion is dependent on ambient temperature, then RandalFlagg's calculations would be correct. However, if the expansion is, as I had assumed, dependent the greater compression ratio and strength of the storage vessels the propane is conveyed in than that of the tank itelf, then the lady's calculations were correct.

I'll go and do some digging...


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Re: I hate stupid people!!! [Re: OJK]
    #3561945 - 12/30/04 05:13 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

It appears that it is temperature dependent after all, so RandalFlagg's calculations were indeed correct.

My apologies  :blush:


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Re: I hate stupid people!!! [Re: geokills]
    #3561963 - 12/30/04 05:18 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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.. and the plot thickens :evil:





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Re: I hate stupid people!!! [Re: OJK]
    #3562178 - 12/30/04 06:34 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

no need to apalogize.....


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Re: I hate stupid people!!! [Re: OJK]
    #3562290 - 12/30/04 07:13 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

:rotfl:

She could've said "D:mad2:UCHEBAG we at Hank's Propane know our shit!"  but that would've been detrimental to her sales of the day.

Politeness = Key

Sometimes so-called "stupid people" got a company computer that spews out the correct answer upon pressing enter.

C'mon.. removing people from the genepool, I know you blew that up but be glad you didn't blow your propane tank up. A 200 gallon propane BLEVE would be bad for your paintjob.
The huge 20% is intended for heatup during fires by the way to give you a head start.

I kinda like the irony in this!


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Re: I hate stupid people!!! [Re: Asante]
    #3562314 - 12/30/04 07:22 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

so her calculations were right then?

i dunno, id rather put in the 155 than the 164 she suggested....if nothing else for safteys sake


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Edited by wrestler_az (12/30/04 07:24 PM)


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Re: I hate stupid people!!! [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3562397 - 12/30/04 07:52 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

I have a 250 gallon tank. You can only fill a propane tank to 80%(because of possible gas expansion), so that means the max capacity of propane that should be in my tank is 200 gallons. My tank has a guage on it that says the percentage of gas that is in the tank. My guage is at 18% right now.




That lady is in the propane business so she ought to know her shit. How does she arrive at those 36 gallons?

Likely because your gauge says it is filled to 18% of its maximum capacity which is 18% of 200 gallons. Capacity generally is how much it is intended to hold, nay?
And presto you have her 36 gallons requiring a 164 gallon fill.

The usual thing in safety gauges is that overcapacity is marked by a red zone. If a red zone on your gauge starts at 80% you are likely correct and you can take the propane, then sue the company for dangerously overfilling your tank. If the red zone starts above 100% or there isn't a red zone she likely deserves a cup of coffee and a piece of pie for your eugenics speech  :wink:

I don't know American propane systems but it isn't unreasonable that they come equipped with a safety valve that slams shut at 100% capacity making it a *fool*proof system.

So put a clothespin on your nose and call her with a foreign accent and a handkerchief over the horn asking if your gauge says 18% of the tank's total volume or 18% of it's capacity to avoid embarassment.
Personally I think it's unlikely she slipped up because she's in the business.


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Re: I hate stupid people!!! [Re: Asante]
    #3562409 - 12/30/04 07:56 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

ya, i guess this whole discussion depends on if the gauge reads 18% of 200 or 250....but ya, id HOPE she knows what shes talking about


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Re: I hate stupid people!!! [Re: Asante]
    #3562419 - 12/30/04 08:00 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Tee-hee!

In fact I can top this: neither of you were correct!!

the tank contains 36 gallons of liquid propane... and 214 gallons of propane gas. If you add 164 gallons of liquid propane then 164 gallons of propane gas would condense to put you a wee bit over the 200 mark.

So if the valve jams shut at 200 gallons and you get charged for 164 gallons you can go ape and demand that over 1/2 cubic meter of propane gas (about half a gallon liquiud propane) be subtracted from that because you are on to them :rotfl:

Demand to pay the gallons on the gauge of the refuel truck and not the gouge on your tank because a wee part of that propane (about half a gallon) was already in the tank.

don't fuck with a science nerd!!


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Re: I hate stupid people!!! [Re: Asante]
    #3562437 - 12/30/04 08:08 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

someday, i want to be a science nerd, just like you....well, not just like you, but ya. you know your shit.


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