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jars look like they stoped colonizing
    #3561119 - 12/30/04 11:37 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

its been 3 weeks now since i inoculated 7 jars. im using quart size jars with wbs and i inoculated them each with 2.5cc of b+. its been 3 weeks and most of them look about 80-90% colonezed and 1 only looks about 50%. theve looked the same now for 3 days. should i wait longer or just go ahead and use them or what??


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Re: jars look like they stoped colonizing [Re: 42zero]
    #3561139 - 12/30/04 11:42 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Is there something over the inoculation holes?
Tape or tin perhaps?
If it is take it off.
Otherwise it might have to do with cO2 and other people will be able to help you with that

Edit:and looking at the 3 days in a row isn't helping.

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Re: jars look like they stoped colonizing [Re: 42zero]
    #3561141 - 12/30/04 11:42 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

um i have the sam eissue with cracked corn being abitch..you can't really break up cracked corn that easily. i unscrewed my lids on my jars some to let air in..i have a half pint that had wbs still in the jar from when i cased it..it has myc still growing. so i put verm coir on it and it's growing through the casing with open air no tvek nothing...i also have some wbs from the 18th that just never took off kinda wierd...using karo

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Re: jars look like they stoped colonizing [Re: djred]
    #3561153 - 12/30/04 11:44 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

theres only 1 hole and yea theres tape over it ill try taking it off.


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Re: jars look like they stoped colonizing [Re: 42zero]
    #3561180 - 12/30/04 11:48 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

You should have used 2 like teks say..on e for injection, one for air exchange. Putting a bandaid instead of tape over it would help since bandaids breathe (and come sterile). I also hope you shook at about 15% colonized to distribute the grains evenly! Also excess moisture in the jars can pool up in the bottom to the end.

You should wait until they're fully colonize before using them or you risk contams..if you do not wait then ONLY use colonized grain when you case it and dont let ANY uncolonized grain in the casing. That should be a last resort though since your still risking your myc.


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Re: jars look like they stoped colonizing [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3561195 - 12/30/04 11:52 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

well heres a prob i noticed about 2 holes.one hole is covered but then air still gets through the other hole and you still have a hole in your tvek that you made with your syringe..so really think about it..oh wait thats if you put your tvek on top..haha i put mine on the bottom of my inside ring..

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Re: jars look like they stoped colonizing [Re: djred]
    #3561204 - 12/30/04 11:55 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Thats another reason I stopped putting it underneath...however I dont think the contams can get from one hole to the other well since many people use tyvek underneath (and use two holes). I never actually had a problem with contams when I went underneath but I was worried about it..

BTW the 'inside ring'...the flat part is called the lid and outer the ring..if you talk about the two peices in that way people will generally know what you mean.


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Re: jars look like they stoped colonizing [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3561274 - 12/30/04 12:22 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

ok ...kool ..kool

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Re: jars look like they stoped colonizing [Re: djred]
    #3562656 - 12/30/04 07:10 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

so would it be alright if took the lid off and left the outer ring on and taped over the holes in the tyvek from the needle?


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Re: jars look like they stoped colonizing [Re: 42zero]
    #3563070 - 12/30/04 09:07 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

That would quite probably dry out your jars but the biggest problem would be opening your jars up to contams. I would remove the tape and replace it with a bandaid or tin foil.


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Re: jars look like they stoped colonizing [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3563212 - 12/30/04 09:54 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

the way i have it though is the tyvek is under the lid on the jar so i can take the lid off and the tyvek will still be covering the top of the jar. should i take the lid off and put another hole in it for air exchange? or do you still think i should just use a bandaid?


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Re: jars look like they stoped colonizing [Re: 42zero]
    #3563233 - 12/30/04 09:58 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Either would work...


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Re: jars look like they stoped colonizing [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3563563 - 12/30/04 11:02 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

i have b+ that are acting up too, not sure if its a strain trait but after 2-3 weeks you know its not going to happen


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