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OfflineCeeThruMeer
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Tips to reach Level 4 - 5?
    #3560017 - 12/30/04 02:18 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I was wondering if there are certain rituals, or little tricks, or aything of the sort that people do that helps guarentee a strong(er) trip... I have done shrooms about 6 or 7 times... and have never passed a level 3 trip... I have eaten 5 and 6 grams and tripped out pretty hard.... but nothing too special... I also had a really good trip from 3.5 grams... but i dont think I have broken the barrier into "Shroom Land" if you will.  :tongue:

by the way, I really love what I have received from mushrooms, but feel that I am totally ready to experience ego-death, and more intense experiences.

So if anyone has any advice at all, I would love to read it, and see if it helps me.

Thankyou
Peace


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to do well always
set your sails, open
ride your waves, flowing
just relax, sober
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Re: Tips to reach Level 4 - 5? [Re: CeeThruMeer]
    #3560301 - 12/30/04 04:48 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

it will come dont worry. Dose like 5-6 grams and just let the trip flow. Dont worry about hitting ego death, it will happen.


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Re: Tips to reach Level 4 - 5? [Re: sui]
    #3561636 - 12/30/04 03:51 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

that's kind of how I was thinking about it... thanks for the reassurance man!


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Re: Tips to reach Level 4 - 5? [Re: CeeThruMeer]
    #3561657 - 12/30/04 03:57 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Relax. That was my biggest problem when I was trying to go "all the way". I was always sitting conversing and laughing with people and filling my lungs with pot smoke. Now I wear some headphones get super comfortable and lay back with my eyes closed and just focus on the music and nothing else. Eventually before I realize it, I'm out in the great beyond. It'll happen when you're ready.


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Re: Tips to reach Level 4 - 5? [Re: vandago]
    #3561839 - 12/30/04 04:47 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

i might suggest;

minimize all outside distractions, focus on nothing, just be. no or low lights, no music, no computer, no tv, no phone, no friends. You should have nothing but you your mind, and it may be painfully confusing but you should break through your outside reality into the fully immersive inner space. Dont bail - I would suggest 5-7g of potent cubie's to get to your space.

My first ego loss was 7g alone, at 16, with no music - i was left to writhe in my bed in pain, crying for about 6 hours - i realized the controlling nature of society and school and how wrongfully influenced ive been. I knew it was wrong to go on, and that change was necessary - it introduced me to my own inner space - and comming back here was real hard. It was a big change.

Goodluck. Dont try to hard.

How aware of your ego are you? Notice it in a social context - and try and back it off, reassure yourself that there is more than *it*..


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Re: Tips to reach Level 4 - 5? [Re: headset]
    #3562106 - 12/30/04 06:10 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

There really no science to reaching a higher level trip. If you have some good shrooms and you dose in the 4.5 to 6 gram range you're almost assured to lose touch with reality as you know it.


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Re: Tips to reach Level 4 - 5? [Re: CeeThruMeer]
    #3562711 - 12/30/04 09:24 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

fast long time. eat large dose. smoke good weed. trip many balls. yes


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Re: Tips to reach Level 4 - 5? [Re: jux]
    #3562732 - 12/30/04 09:28 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

mckenna style, complete darkness, no sound, just you and the mushrooms. (although i dont mind alittle pink floyd somewhere along the line while im in the darkness)


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Re: Tips to reach Level 4 - 5? [Re: Damn]
    #3562975 - 12/30/04 10:33 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Eat 20 dry grams of some good cubes and I promise a level 5. It won't kill you unless you're psycho or have a really bad heart or something. Blend them up and put them in OJ and guzzle. Have a nice time, and please report back.


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Re: Tips to reach Level 4 - 5? [Re: newusername222]
    #3563180 - 12/30/04 11:45 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I'm surprised that no-one has mentioned using nitrous.

???


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Re: Tips to reach Level 4 - 5? [Re: BorgFace]
    #3566999 - 01/01/05 01:08 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

like most of the others said... it will come when you are good and ready for it... not when you think you are, or want ot be, but when you truly, in every asppect of the notion, spiritualy and mentaly capableof handling such sanity,

id personally suggest going outside and being in nature, instead of concentratinf on saturating yourself with electronic devices of which you are surely allready over saturated with

i like to go in the woods, or just outside, even a park will work, with nothing but me, myself, my walkman, and a couple of my favorite incubus mixes.


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Re: Tips to reach Level 4 - 5? [Re: BorgFace]
    #3568031 - 01/01/05 01:34 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

BorgFace said:
I'm surprised that no-one has mentioned using nitrous.

???




My thought exacially, personally i use poppers. Probably not as good as    "real" nitrous like the ones you buy in the metal containers and inhale. Although I'm not going to use poppers while tripping again, well ,maybe near the end. I find they drain the experience, i take a nice hit of poppers an ill be out of here for a few minutes but when i come back the buzz has gone and I'm just left feeling drained, mainly depressed.

The best thing you can do is to just chill out in an empty room with a friend or two, smoke lots of weed and just lie back,relax, listening to trippy music.  :smirk:


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Re: Tips to reach Level 4 - 5? [Re: Mushie_Man]
    #3568197 - 01/01/05 03:04 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I dunno about this no-music nonsense. I always jam to some great tunes. I burn a CD with stuff I havn't heard before and trip to that either by myself or at most with 2-3 friends.

Anyway man, Just chill, relax. Focus. Don't worry about getting to level 5, worry about level 5 getting to you


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Re: Tips to reach Level 4 - 5? [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3568354 - 01/01/05 04:59 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I really dig good music while I'm tripping. I find that Tool Lateralus is a great cd, because maynards voice is quite hypnotic and it's all about seperating the body from the mind. I also really dig Nine Inch Nail's cd the fragile, it's quite amzing. But to each his own.


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Re: Tips to reach Level 4 - 5? [Re: CeeThruMeer]
    #3568512 - 01/01/05 06:27 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

take 5+ grams of shrooms, woodlovers are stronger


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Re: Tips to reach Level 4 - 5? [Re: FuckedUp]
    #3568640 - 01/01/05 07:20 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Nitrous while peaking is a lil tooooo much for me. That shit just rocketed me up to wonderland. Now thinking about it, it could be good to reach a very high level quickly and come right back down. I just wasnt ready for it at the time. Intense.


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Re: Tips to reach Level 4 - 5? [Re: CeeThruMeer]
    #3576712 - 01/03/05 10:47 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

It's all about learning to let go of your ego.  Many people just arn't comfortable letting their egos die.  :rolleyes:  So they hang on, and at lower level trips this keeps them from achieving ego loss.  At higher doses, this means that sometimes they have to be dragged kicking by the higher dose.

It took a 15 grams for my first ego death experience.  But I've since had just as significant (though shorter) ego deaths on 4 grams since I've gotten more comfortable with letting go.


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Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed... The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. We pay for a single fighter with a half million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people..."

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Re: Tips to reach Level 4 - 5? [Re: Tantalus]
    #3583539 - 01/05/05 12:03 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Damn i must be a light- weight.!
I had TOTAL ego-loss on 4 dried grams i ate in  a chocolate.
It was great but yet scary at times also.

Good luck on getting there. :mushroom2: :rocket: :mushroom2:


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Re: Tips to reach Level 4 - 5? [Re: RazorFire]
    #3585959 - 01/05/05 10:09 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Smoking threshold amounts of DMT in combination with orally-ingested tryptamines has an apparent synergizing effect.

And as I am no doubt sure someone said, syrian rue, passionflower, or any mild MAOI will poteniate the mushrooms.


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Re: Tips to reach Level 4 - 5? [Re: CeeThruMeer]
    #3587017 - 01/06/05 01:47 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Some salvia while peaking will definitely put you in another world.


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