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InvisibleAnnapurna1
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poll ..are you a ~terrorist~?...
    #3558926 - 12/29/04 10:31 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

a terrorist agent approaches you with a biological weapon and asks you to deploy it in the 'red zone'...assume that you know both to be legit...
would you accept the offer?...
You may choose only one
yes...
no...
not sure...


Votes accepted from (12/29/04 10:26 PM) to (No end specified)
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Re: poll ..are you a ~terrorist~?... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3558955 - 12/29/04 10:38 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

personally..i have some doubts as to whether i could actually push myself to do it...OTOH..as much as i wish i could answer "no"..the sad fact is that the majority of victims prolly dont warrant much sympathy either..given the prevailing moralism...


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Re: poll ..are you a ~terrorist~?... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3558977 - 12/29/04 10:45 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

what do you mean by the "red zone"? i still voted 'no' because i don't believe violence ever leads to a sustainable solution, but can you clarify that for me?


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Re: poll ..are you a ~terrorist~?... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3558982 - 12/29/04 10:46 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I'm going to move this to PAL, as the topic of terrorism is very much a political one. If any of you PAL mods don't want it there, you can of course move it back.


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Re: poll ..are you a ~terrorist~?... [Re: Krishna]
    #3559035 - 12/29/04 10:58 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Krishna said:
what do you mean by the "red zone"? i still voted 'no' because i don't believe violence ever leads to a sustainable solution, but can you clarify that for me?






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Re: poll ..are you a ~terrorist~?... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3559071 - 12/29/04 11:05 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

i choose yes cause you said "if you know both to be legit". if i knew there was a legit reason, yes i honestly would...or try to. couldnt really say till teh time came, but if it was for what i believed in and the alternative was really bad....sure thing.

but not much deserves such a harsh justice.


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Re: poll ..are you a ~terrorist~?... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3559080 - 12/29/04 11:06 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

oh ok. well then my question is - to whoever voted yes or not sure - how would this help the cause of social justice? don't you think that with the absurdly reactionary policies of the current American government this would simply lead to more violence? in the same way that you can never stop islamic fundamentalists by bombing them, i believe you can never stop american fundamentalists by bombing them. violence begets more violence... at least that's what i've come to believe... :shrug:


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Re: poll ..are you a ~terrorist~?... [Re: Krishna]
    #3559113 - 12/29/04 11:17 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

i agree, but violence can stop things. enough of it can boot the yanks or islams right ot if thats teh goal. all im saying is that if i knew what really went on in certain governments and tehre were people that went, agressivly, against many of my belies and were harming inocents i would drop the package. too many grey areas for me to go into, but if i was SURE 100% then i would, but that would be a cold day in hell. i voted yes for the above quote.


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Re: poll ..are you a ~terrorist~?... [Re: kadakuda]
    #3559164 - 12/29/04 11:28 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

violence is an escalated form of hatred
ghandi showed that even incredible opposition can be neutralized in a good way by stopping hatred as it arises.

after ghandi the factions fight again, as if they had no clue.
the mines have to be detected and removed on a regular basis since ignorant people keep setting them up.

I remember being adolescent and imagining violence as useful, can't see it that way any more. find the hatred, face it peacefully.


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Re: poll ..are you a ~terrorist~?... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3559225 - 12/29/04 11:44 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I can't really think of a "legitimate" reason to murder thousands of innocent people.

I guess that's why I'll never make a good politican.


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Re: poll ..are you a ~terrorist~?... [Re: Revelation]
    #3559347 - 12/30/04 12:08 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

>> I can't really think of a "legitimate" reason to murder thousands of innocent people.

its a crime to kill innocent ppl...but killing "good" ppl is no more criminal than killing "evil" ones.. given the way that that our society has defined goodness as a mere expression of power...


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Re: poll ..are you a ~terrorist~?... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3559499 - 12/30/04 12:38 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Annapurna1 said:
a terrorist agent approaches you with a biological weapon and asks you to deploy it in the 'red zone'...assume that you know both to be legit...



Are you fucking serious?
It's crap like this that makes it impossible for me to take you seriously.


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Re: poll ..are you a ~terrorist~?... [Re: z@z.com]
    #3559722 - 12/30/04 01:12 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Biological weapons are bad.

Baaaaaaddd baadd.

Here's a question, should we release biological agents over the entirety of the Middle East?

Heck let's even cut the 'biological' part out of it. How about we just kill everyone in the Middle East?


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Re: poll ..are you a ~terrorist~?... [Re: Mushmonkey]
    #3559894 - 12/30/04 01:48 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

i for one fear for the non human casualties in instinces liek biological warfare. if people use these to fight i loose any amount of respect i may have had for them. jsut plain fucking stupid, i fail to see any good from diseasing our earth. and that i would not do. i would be willing to only kill those who are responsible for whatever.

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assume that you know both to be legit...




i doubt that would ever happen for me but thats what i based my vote on.


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Re: poll ..are you a ~terrorist~?... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3560162 - 12/30/04 03:05 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)


a terrorist agent approaches you with a biological weapon and asks you to deploy it...


what the hell are you babbling about now?


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Re: poll ..are you a ~terrorist~?... [Re: ]
    #3560652 - 12/30/04 09:47 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I voted yes, but meant no.

I'm a brain terrorist.


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Re: poll ..are you a ~terrorist~?... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3560791 - 12/30/04 11:30 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Who the hell voted yes, or not sure? Were you joking?


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Re: poll ..are you a ~terrorist~?... [Re: phi1618]
    #3560800 - 12/30/04 11:39 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I voted yes but I was thinking more of a global catastrophe reminiscent of Stephen King's "The Stand". If something like that were to take place I'd rather be at the ground floor knowing who caused my death than one of the masses. Plus in that situation the terrorist would have other agents around the world so if I were to refuse it would not affect the final outcome.


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Re: poll ..are you a ~terrorist~?... [Re: kadakuda]
    #3560874 - 12/30/04 12:19 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

kadakuda said:
i for one fear for the non human casualties in instinces liek biological warfare. if people use these to fight i loose any amount of respect i may have had for them. jsut plain fucking stupid, i fail to see any good from diseasing our earth. and that i would not do. i would be willing to only kill those who are responsible for whatever.




we already have diseased the planet.. we are the disease...killing ourselves with a biological weapon would at the very worst not change anything..and that the very best stop us from turning the earth into a radioactive ball of sludge...


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Re: poll ..are you a ~terrorist~?... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3560903 - 12/30/04 12:29 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

What kind of biological weapon?

One that kills off the present humans?
In that case, no.

One that kills all life? In that case, no.

One that influences genetics and will carry on into future generations?
In that case, no. Children don't deserve to inherit their parents' crimes.

One that reduces fertility?
50% chance of an affirmative answer. Suppose it would depend on how I feel that day.


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