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Source
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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: Shroomism]
#3561066 - 12/30/04 11:22 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Shroomism said:I expect it to get much worse (for us) before it gets better.
I have lived my entire life expecting things to get worse before they get better. The results have not been very good for me - feelings of dread, feeling that it is pointless to create, worrying for my kids...
Lately I have been trying to realize a different perspective. Why should things have to get worse? Why can't they just get better?
Perhaps our will determines our reality, or more accurately, perhaps our will determines which reality we will experience. What we believe and what we desire is what we get. There are innumerable uiverses of possibilities to inhabit. Why not choose to inhabit a universe that is already in the process of renewing itself?
I'm sure you are familiar with the concept of parallel universes. There are all these Shroomisms living in an infinite number of alternant realities. Why are you inhabiting this one?
Personally, I am still stuck in a reality that is ripe with destruction and pain. I think a part of me revels in the death of it, but another part of me does not want to see my children suffer such an existence.
Bottom line though is that I don't think any future is set in stone, though the closer we get to armagedon, the more intention it will take to choose not to experience it.
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Vvellum
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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: Fliquid]
#3561475 - 12/30/04 01:12 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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how exactly is injecting reason into topics such as these equate to "threads being destroyed"?
2012 = Y2K mark my word. all hype, no reason.
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dblaney
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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: Vvellum]
#3562455 - 12/30/04 06:13 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Haha well damn...see what happens when you don't come back to the thread you created for a day or two!
Anyways, by something more subtle, I mean something along the lines of one theory, which suggested that 12/21/12 will result in a restart of karma. Or perhaps it will be some evolution in consciousness? Who knows. Perhaps the Mayans will all come back through some intergallactic time machine and take over the world. Maybe it will be absolutely nothing!
But regardless, it is an intriguing theory/idea, though we may not even live to find out what, if anything happens. Perhaps whatever happens won't be determinable until decades or centuries after the fact.
I am a bit skeptical about theories and prophecies such as this. However, I do admit that the Mayan calendar was/is one of, if not THE most accurate calendar ever created, even predicting the year of their own demise by Cortez.
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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? *DELETED* [Re: dblaney]
#3562611 - 12/30/04 06:58 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Post deleted by MAIAReason for deletion: ad Hominem
Read the rules.
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mar1juana
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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: namesash]
#3562616 - 12/30/04 07:00 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah i hate logic it sucks people shouldnt make sense
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Moonshoe
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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: Source]
#3562644 - 12/30/04 07:08 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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i gotta say this source, i just gotta
your an incredible person. when i read your posts it gives me this really deep feeling like i can emphathize with whats going on with you. SO many of the thoughts you express i have personally known myself, and the path of your awakening seems to very closely parallel my own. whats amazing for me is that you are also an adult, a father...
i guess whats cool is that in this medium, there is no age. ive never felt such a close affinity for someone with such an age differance than me, you know?
your right about so much of course. your preferances and your outlook will affect your experience dramatically. when you anticipate pain, you open the door for it to come into your life, and conversely until you open yourself to love and healing, it cannot reach you.
Open yourself and
"let go" - deff
peace my friend
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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: Moonshoe]
#3562674 - 12/30/04 07:14 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Read John Major Jenkins' books.
McKenna also talks about the alignment in The Invisible Landscape.
McKennaDMT
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wandrnshaman
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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: Source]
#3563714 - 12/30/04 11:31 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Positive changes don't always have to come from chaos. Some believe this is so because change is often begot of chaos. But try to keep in mind that your life doesn't have to be thrown into turmoil before it can get better.
But, of course, sometimes it is necessary to break down to rebuild in fullness.
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GazzBut
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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: Diploid]
#3564251 - 12/31/04 03:22 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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/sigh
In order for a source to have credibility, it must be published in a peer-reviewed astronomical journal or similar publication, not a New Age mumbo-jumbo web site.
Is that how you base your beliefs - peer review = good, non peer review = bad, isnt that just a little simplistic?
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Source
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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: Moonshoe]
#3584835 - 01/05/05 03:51 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Right on my brotha! It's always good to find others who can empathize, and you're right, in this medium age doesn't matter too much!
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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: Source]
#3586226 - 01/05/05 08:57 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Weather patterns aren't especially bad and getting worse beyond global warming.
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peer review = good, non peer review = bad, isnt that just a little simplistic?
the peer reviewed journal is much, much, much more likely to be credible, or "good". If there is any bulk at all of credible research into a topic, there should be at least the tip of the iceberg should show up in a scientific journal. Noone in this thread can give a website with a credible link between astronomical alignments and terrestrial events, outside of the earth aligning between the moon and sun and causing it to get dark.
If you force it hard enough, however, you can find an ancient mythological event and fit the tsunamies into it. If you can't, you aren't thinking or forcing hard enough.
Square peg, round hole.
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Cosm
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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: oceansize]
#3587625 - 01/06/05 03:24 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Someone, somewhere, said its when mans mind will awaken and we will see the others as they really are.
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uriahchase
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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: Diploid]
#3587740 - 01/06/05 04:23 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sure, but it's certainly not special enough to warrant all the hysteria or the presumption that the end of the world is upon us given that it's already happened 5 times since humans arrived and 200,000 times since the Earth began its orbit. how the fuck could you know when the earth started its orbit??? or when humans "arrived" and how the fuck could you know that its happend 200,000 times since? you're a fuckin idiot diploid. and i truely mean it. you're
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Source
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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: uriahchase]
#3588483 - 01/06/05 10:32 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lighten up uriah! We don't call eachother 'fuckin idiots' here. If you have a counter argument, make it, don't fall down to making personal attacks. ...on second thought, I just re-read through the posts...maybe diploid deserved it.
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MAIA
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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: uriahchase]
#3588817 - 01/06/05 12:10 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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you're a fuckin idiot diploid. and i truely mean it. you're
No more of these, and i truly mean it. Please, read the rules.
MAIA
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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: namesash]
#3588834 - 01/06/05 12:14 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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namesash said: Diploid's such a moron
Not wanted, not needed, don't do it again. Read the rules.
MAIA
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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: Diploid]
#3588885 - 01/06/05 12:26 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Diploid said: You make it sound like I have something to hide. It's proponents of mumbo-jumbo crap who can't back up their claims that have something to hide.
Don't assume things that fast. Besides, you are asking for confrontation by indirectly relating "mumbo-jumbo crap" with this thread. Stick with your own logic, post at will but don't do this again.
MAIA
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The_Red_Crayon
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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: Shroomism]
#3589160 - 01/06/05 01:57 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: These threads always get destroyed.. that's why you have to post in cryptic writing. Forgetting all that, the weather patterns indicate something is not normal on planet Earth. I expect it to get much worse (for us) before it gets better.
Exactly. The way this world is going right now will only get worse call me a pessimist but id prefer a realist.
If you cant see whats happening. Its getting to the point where you cant even breathe the air. With all the sulfur Dioxide and carbon monoxide being put into the air. If you ever live near a city if you look at the moon it has a orange hue from it. Its from smog.
Even the water is getting bad. You cant even eat fish or shellfish hardly from fears of mercury poisoning. Foreign Fish markets have tooken poundings because of fears of mercury on a rise
To make matters worse you have diseases infecting the whole globe. By 2020 Aids will reach a 90% infection rate in Africa, and a 75% infection rate across the world. There were 5 million new cases of aids in the USA last year.
The Rich continue to get richer while the poor are killed and left for dead and not cared about. Thousands of people die across the world and just become statistics.Simple diseases like flu and malaria continue to kill millions of people worldwide.
We have bastions of Democracy like the United States and UK. Ready to combat "islamic militarism" Aka another crusade. Unlike wars back 100 or 200 years ago. We have nuclear weapons and the ability to destroy millions of people with a single weapon.
Economic downfalls are on the horizon. With the slipping dollar. USA continues to borrow money from the world bank. United states continually spending money when they have no money to spend and racking up a massive foreign trade deficit.
Continuous overpopulation will coincide with deadlier diseases to spread.
Earthquakes,Tsunamis,Typhoons,Volcanoes,War,Pestilence,Disease, and than finally Cataclysmic death. Poor or rich it doesnt matter.
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shroom_muncher
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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: Shroomism]
#3589348 - 01/06/05 03:02 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Rebirtha
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This is a cool site that has alot of amazing info on the whole 2012 thing. http://www.diagnosis2012.co.uk/1.htm many other sources besides the mayan contain the 2012 idea.
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