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Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times
    #355169 - 07/15/01 10:33 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Well I really was tired of seeing this guy profiting off of unsuspecting people who don't know any better. I contacted someone at Hightimes about this since he advertises on their website, and I think also in the magazine itself.

What do you people think, is it not something justified in reporting this company to the Hightimes staff so that they can at least be aware of his shady business practices?

Should we do more, less, about this website? I think he's blacklisted by most people who frequent this website, but what about all the unsuspecting newbies who just don't know any better, is it not our duty to warn people?

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Thor]
    #355181 - 07/15/01 10:47 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Thor]
    #355183 - 07/15/01 10:52 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Good idea. After all, the shroomery's mission is to spread knowledge and stop the disemination of false/misleading information about shrooms/drugs. Maybe we can pool our best writers and submit an article to set the facts straight (before the sporetradingpost guy does)..

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: egghead]
    #355192 - 07/15/01 11:02 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, I'd love for someone who knows more than me to pick out specific examples of his rip offs. Show a comparison of a bunch of vendors and his prices...

And explain why these ridiculous strains like the infamous 'Z' strain are totallly silly and don't warrant this $99 dollar price tag.

HighTimes emailed me back and said they were going to look into this matter, so hopefully I'll hear something back soon. If I don't hear anything I will contact them again.

I think a smart letter would be a great idea, if anybody wants to do that, it would be really cool.

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Thor]
    #355209 - 07/15/01 11:27 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

That guy should be poisoned,shot,stabbed,hung,scalped,drawn and quartered, then burned at the stake. Having some type of warning(BIG RED LETTERS MAYBE :)> ) in the Growing section of the site or resources about this bastard might help some to deter newbies from him. If when I first got interested in this and had I ran across his website first I might have decided it was all too damn expensive for me and gave up ever attempting it. SporeTradingPost is definitely a stain on the community. He should be boycotted publicly.

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Thor]
    #355212 - 07/15/01 11:31 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

I think I remember someone awhile back saying his "Z" strain was actually the Acadian Strain.

That dumbfuck shouldn't be in business. There should be a not so nice little warning posted on all drug related BB's and web sites pointing out this guys true nature. I think that was a great first step in getting the trugh known about this guy thor.

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Thor]
    #355215 - 07/15/01 11:33 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Here is why I think that it attracts so many newbies to his site if you use a search engine to inquire about anything to do with groing mushrooms his site pop's up under petris, spores,
syringes, cultivation etc... so when you see a name so many times you tend to think it is a better site. And you enter and low and behold he sells every product you need and his kits will teach you to grow pounds and pounds of mushrooms there hooked and they buy and low and behold you in up with 100-500.00 dollars worth of shit.
You can get the supplies he sells cheap but being new you jump in try it, fail and then your pissed off and start looking for a better place and then they see the truth.
I think his new web host should be notified as well let's burn him at the stake.


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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: dimitri211]
    #355218 - 07/15/01 11:36 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

He has only 1 e-mail address we could all start sending e-mails to this guy telling him how much we love his site and after a bit he wood get tired of opening e-mails all together and that could be the downfall of his scam

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Thor]
    #355286 - 07/16/01 01:10 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Damn does the STP suck! Thor, message me if you need some help with the letter. I think it should preface with his excellent $99 Keepers Brew a.k.a Sugar Water!

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: *HeGz*]
    #355343 - 07/16/01 02:19 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

thor, how about an address where we can ALL complain to high times. if we all took 2 minutes and sent a letter it would speak louder than one person



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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: jim2]
    #355349 - 07/16/01 02:32 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

***don't email merilee anymore*** :smile:

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Thor]
    #355355 - 07/16/01 02:46 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: McMan]
    #355374 - 07/16/01 03:18 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: ralphster44]
    #355382 - 07/16/01 03:34 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

I just e-mailed merilee at high times and made a complaint. I also invited her to come to this BB and tolsd her to ask someone to point out all the threads that have been started regarding STP.
Is there anyone who can take the time as a favor to all and put these into 1 thread, envelope, or whatever so that if she does visit we can quickly point her to the thread.
If she does not make it by soon I will bring the threads to her in another polite e-mail.
People please continue to e-mail her and help with the banning of this site.

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: ralphster44]
    #355383 - 07/16/01 03:45 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Ralph,

I hear ya bro. This is why I leave at times, I really get sick of how self centered people are. The ego wars are a joke. But you know whats funny? I have seen this parallel to real life. I have noticed this more and more in the everyday world. Most people; not all, do not give a flying rats ass about good people. The buisness world reflects this today as we are fed advertisements till we puke.

I guess Im getting older and my perceptions are changing. I come back to these sites at times because I charish the old days, where it seemed more of a tight community. I see posts now come and go so fast. I can answer in a post and over half the times it dies out and is gone down the list in a matter of a day.

The community has definately changed and I really feel like I don't fit in anymore. I really love my hobby and that will never change. Sometimes I try to never come to these sites and I do notice my emotions go from worry about how people act more to the spirit of the shroom. I find reading books or informational parts of sites like the shroomery tends to form my own little world of the shroom. Call it fantasy; I call it selective happiness in my case.

One would say ignore and take what you can; I have a hard time doing that because I am too caring and a habitual worrier. Peoples opinions are treaded on like foot mats and the egos fly rampid over stupid things. Its not just here, its any site with human interaction (forums, etc.).

I still feel that the shroomery, erowid, and lycaeum are the top sites when it comes to archived information and thats what I like the most. For me, the forums and such are just mental mastrubation anymore; a waste of energy.

Thor and 3D, you guys are doing good. Keep up the good work.

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: dimitri211]
    #355395 - 07/16/01 04:05 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

I would be more than happy to do this, Dimitri, but I feel that someone who has more experience with the Shroomery would know more about how many complaints/where the complaints are/who exactly they're about-the details that matter, should do this to make sure its done correctly.

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Alien]
    #355397 - 07/16/01 04:10 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

I can see what you're saying Alien, because I've seen it coming for a long time. I wondered if it was just me growing up, but it wasn't. I am not so determined to be where I used to be, but I feel not so bad, having known how true things were at one time and accepting being spent. I just don't have the drive.

My head is hurting..
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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Thor]
    #355399 - 07/16/01 04:15 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Thor & Ralph,
Any back references for some to check up on? May find more support if we all knew what was up. ;)
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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Condi1]
    #355471 - 07/16/01 07:42 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Heres some posts that will fill you in on the contraversy about www.sporetradingpost.com

Spore Trading Post?

Anyone here heard of the N.J. 6 Strain?

My favorite >>>>> Any thoughts on the Z Strain?

Give those a read and you'll quickly see why this spore trading post is blacklisted by the online mushroom community.

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Thor]
    #355478 - 07/16/01 07:48 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

i sent a very nice e-mail (not like my ususal self) complaining about the spore trading post. hope it does some good, there is strength in numbers. thanks for the address thor.
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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Thor]
    #355592 - 07/16/01 11:24 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

i was at the high time web site awhile ago. i saw the 'spore trading post', and thought well maybe i wanna grow shrooms. i saw his prices and decided its to much for me. luckily i found this site. have u seen his "Indorr Patches", well there the same ones sold at fungi.com. he must buy them and sell em for a few dollars more. im not to good in the legal business but im pretty sure thats illegal.

Well, I grip the fence and I bend the steal
And I steal a car and I grip the wheel
And I park the car and I steal it again
Cuz I really don't know what's happenin

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: thugg]
    #355616 - 07/16/01 01:03 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Anyone that's grown could read the site and tell that those super strains are a load of crap. But that doesn't help all the newbies that are being taken advantage of. He's just tellin' folks what they wanna hear. bigger, better, faster, exclusive strains.. We all know the type.

thugg.. reselling a product is not illegal. It's very common.

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: egghead]
    #357645 - 07/20/01 05:11 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

I didn't read this entire thread but by looking at all the other advertizements in that putrid magazine they woln't do shit. Basically all the other ads in high times are bullshit ads for "legal highs." They have all this stuff that looks similar to marijuana and has a name like "bc bud" or "thai sticks" and they sell it for weed prices. "Wizard smoke" anyone? And then there is even a mushroom knockoff "Shroomz" (I think thats the name) and they say "feed your head." Even the articles in high times are complete bullshit. There is nothing but nonsense and good bud pics. Even their "grow info" is bullshit. Numerous times have I seen an article on growing that is bullshit. But they do have nice bud pics. Maybe we should treat high times like a porno magazine; no one buys it for the articles, they buy it to drool over the pictures.

If 90% of the ads are selling fake drugs that are overpriced do you think they will do something about an ad that sells overpriced spores?

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: egghead]
    #357784 - 07/20/01 10:02 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

You guys wanna do something about this "tradingpost dickhead"? We could start by adding a line to all of our signatures here at DDI, FF and any other mushroom related site about this guy. The word WILL get around eventually. Just think how many bad references that would be if all or most of us took part. A letter writing campaign "may" provide some results but I doubt it you know the saying "money talks" and thats all High Times is interested in. There is nothing worse for a vendor than to have a thousand people saying how much he sucks. If that dont work someone find out where his operation is and maybe one of those unfortunate "acts of god" might befall this guy, never know??


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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Billyblastoff]
    #360516 - 07/25/01 11:40 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

So has anybody heard back from Hightimes about this guy?

I hope they at least give this a serious look...

But what else can we do? I was looking at his website again and it makes me mad to see what he's doing.... This just isn't right!

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Thor]
    #360550 - 07/25/01 01:39 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Here's a little thread I found, that I thought you'd find intresting.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Forum1&Number=1030&page=&view=&sb=&o=&part=all&vc=1

I thought I remembered his name. Shows you, the long term memory is still working ;)



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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Green Fever]
    #360552 - 07/25/01 01:49 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

I never forget that, what a joke, anyone with a brain can tell he did that to draw attention away from his scamming.... If it was true then I'm saddened by that behavior, but I do understand the anger against this guy.... Even the 'Keeper' himself admits to his prices being outrageous!

In reply to:

"Yes?the prices of the syringes are outrageous?this is true"




I still think it was a tactic, just like he doesn't make email contact possible on his website...

I wish this one very black mark on the community would get a concience, its shamefull to have someone like this associated with any of the online mushroom community.

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Thor]
    #362283 - 07/28/01 09:22 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

For the past year or so that I've been here, the whole Z-Strain/SporeTradingPost conspiracy has continued to darken the cheery mood here at the Shroomery for two reasons...

1) He violates the sense of peaceful, sharing community that is the Shroomery (most of the time, lol), where even the spore suppliers understand that they are aiding you in creating something beautiful....not just selling you a product for profit. By taking advantage of those who've come to create that thing of beauty for the first time, STP rapes those who don't know any better...all for the high margin of a one time, bad deal.

2) I believe running such a terrible business simply drags the magic mushroom down into the realm of "common drugs", among the likes of crack dealers...where profit is the bottom line. His outright lies and flagrant prices are in line with crappy E-dealers and red rock opium suppliers who make the local news when the product they sell kills a kid...

Anyways, I'm right with you guys. The high prices are bad enough, and the plagarism and stolen cult teks are just the icing on the cake. Glad to know there are still loads of good apples here, ready to take down the death star without a giant flame war. I'll be sending my High Times email tomorrow.

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: FungusFarmer]
    #362313 - 07/28/01 10:15 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

that guy is such a sack. thats the bottom line.
i think i will send that guy a nice virus or two. ;)

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Thor]
    #362344 - 07/28/01 11:24 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

"And explain why these ridiculous strains like the infamous 'Z' strain are totallly silly and don't warrant this $99 dollar price tag. "

i can see that 99$ is a fucking rip off, and that this guy has to be though a lesson, but something u said got me thinking.

but "these ridiculous strains like the infamous 'Z' strain are totallly silly " this i don't get?

its rather strange that just because someone gave a diff name to something it is silly, dose everyone have to refer to strains the same way as the shroomery? I don't remember seeing B+ anywere in P.S books. I think u are forgetting that vendors here come up with "new" and "silly" strains every week, its kinda sad that some many get so excited about a strain they probably already have.


anyways besides that, i've sent a letter to HS / M.Kuchon via email. Sorry if i came off as rude, i guess this is just an issue for me, anyways nothing personnel. Peace




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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: hubertd8]
    #363097 - 07/30/01 01:44 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah but vendors give strains proper names, especially when they grow and determine exactly what they have is new or original...

Don't forget just a few months before the big war against STP started, The keeper was asking Ryche and lots of people here simple questions about, incubation temps, etc....

The guy is no pro, he probably knows little more than most of us about growing... Ryche, Sporeworks, etc.. They know a lot about what they are doing, if they get a new strain they confirm it and then offer it up... Do you think the Keeper does the same?

Besides just look at most of his photos he has on his website, some are just pathetic. Back in the day he even used some of Ryche's photos, once Ryche found out about his pricing scam he immediately told him off and said he want's his pics removed and didn't want anything to do with him.

A scammer like him is ordering spores from vendors (originally thats what he did) and then growing them, changing the name so he can say "hey, its a special strain, thats why its so expensive" .... If he outright had a cambodian syringe at say $90 dollars he would have less ability to scam people since we all know that is totally bullshit.. But newbies think that the Z strain is some magicly powerfull thing, so they fall for his scam.

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Thor]
    #363577 - 07/30/01 10:02 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

She basically told me to go fuck myself:

i'm not sure why you're writing to me as i am not his ad rep. but, i
do know that his ad rep has spoken with him and sees no reason to
remove his advertisement from our site as his retail prices are the
only issue, which isn't exactly a "scam". welcome to
capitalism...whether his karma will be wrecked by this is another
matter. if you are interested in advertising your low prices with us
you would probably kick his ass in sales if the price difference is
as significant as you say. until that happens, he will be one of the
few mushroom advertisers on our site and will therefore get
interested customers.
thanks :)
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And what makes her think I am starting a spore vending business? I guess she just doesn't understand the point.

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Shroominator]
    #363726 - 07/31/01 02:51 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

I wouldn't say thats telling you to go 'fuck' yourself, jeesh...

She's right, the AD rep for HighTimes defended the ADS saying that its his right to charge what ever he wants, etc...

While its sad, its true that he can.. But if we could just put someone up against this guy in High Times he would loose tons of business. Too bad the AD rates are pretty steep.

Well Merilee is very cool, we've communicated our thoughts to High Times, I know she agrees but in her position she can't do anything about it..... So I've removed the email address for Merilee and ask that no one email her anymore.

I will not stop trying to spread the anti-sporetrading post sentiment. I frequent a lot of boards now and I will always be ready to stop anyone from buying from this guy.

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Thor]
    #363731 - 07/31/01 03:03 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Thor tell me how to start I will do it with ralph or lilshop I will pay to see this guy hammered.
I get wood just thinking about it.

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: dimitri211]
    #363738 - 07/31/01 03:26 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Here's the cost of paying for an AD...... Below is the Magazine rates, we get the 'cultural rate'.....

Web rates: Web rates are between $1500 and $100 per month depending on location.

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Thor]
    #363745 - 07/31/01 03:35 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Now I have been made to think ouch I am going to dig deeper and try to get this done asap

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: dimitri211]
    #363859 - 07/31/01 07:14 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Have we explained to them how his business not only rips people off, but he often will not deliver or give contaminated things such as syringes? Maybe if we all donate, we can get a web advertisement or magazine ad pointing to one of the vendors sites and have that site explain how much the stp sucks.

We need a "stop that fucking jewish bastard keeper from ripping any more poeple off" fund.

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Thor]
    #363903 - 07/31/01 08:28 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Holy Shit...I should get into the Magazine business. Those prices are pretty steep.



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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Thor]
    #364296 - 08/01/01 03:02 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

THor, I was pissed after reading this post becasue a while back I believe this person tried to get me to give him a link at my shroom site. I declined becasue I told him I did not know him.

Now I see hee is ripping people off here so I too have written Steve Hager into investigating this person and I sent him a guest book message that I was going to write High TImes abolut him and also put a warning on my links page to nto order any items from the STP. His prices are disgusting and rediculous. His NJ strain is from Austria.

Anyway. screw him and his outlandish prices. ALso Thor, it is not a good idea to endorse a lot of spore dealerrs since we do not know them. I have seen this happen before here at the shroomery where people get a bunch of money and disappear.

Anyway, You and your partner are doing an excellent job revamping the shroomery.

AS for space. I think you should delete any of the MISC archives over three months old. I say this because that obnoxious game playing is not worth tying up space on the server to store worthless information. Since most of the MISC is bs between people who do not know one another.

I know I talked to you before about the General indforamtion section that it should be for general information regarding mushrooms since this is a mushroom site and other drug talk should and does belong in the other drug forum not in the general information, which is still cluttered with people asking questions of no importance at all to shrooms or to other drugs. and to several game players who like to disrupt the flow of free information.

Keep up the good work Thor. IT is appreciated by me and by many other contributors here at this sight.

mj

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    #364318 - 08/01/01 03:56 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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    #364323 - 08/01/01 04:02 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

That sounds like an excellent idea McMan, I think all vendors should seriously consider it.

Lets discuss this in private and I'll contact all parties about doing this, I think this may benefit everyone while hurting the spore trading post immensly :smile:

Thanks for the nice words John, I do watch that we don't advertise for vendors who are not trustworthy.....

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: ralphster44]
    #364461 - 08/01/01 08:29 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Yes Sir, they are,
But, as all late comers, they are part of a whole new bunch now. Hear your thinking here, McMan. Trust me......... But, I think what many are striving for is some sort of standard of product. Only way I can think of to accomplish this is some sort of commonly accepted standard of quality/price amongst vendors. Because of this exact problem, do not think much will be able to be accomplished here as far as trust goes in the community. Will appear as too much of a regulation and control issue to obtain any sort of consensis. And, actually, believe things should remain as is. Let the newby search for answers to probs, and all usually works out, in the end, if desire is there. Really hate to see things go mainstream, as I've been seeing. See more probs with that than anything.
But, as I've just mentioned, y'all got to realize we are dealing with a larger problem here, now. This is getting to be a much larger community of searchers, with it's own unique problems being presented every day. This is not necessarily a bad thing, but this prob is just one example of many things to come.
One thing none of you can prevent. You will always have some folk place faith in someone, somehow, somewhere.... without decent advice.. (This is not under your control). Then......, afterwards...., I can nearly guarantee you WILL see them pop up in some boards, SOMETIME later, voicing their bad experiences. For those situations, there is very little you can do, except try to deal with the problems after the fact, and help them along as able. Hopefully turn a bad situation into good. But, unfortunately, does not always happen. Greatfully, several in past have always been there to fill this type of void. Hope this will always continue till my last dying day.
Thor,
I appreciate your getting back to my simple question. It hasn't gone unnoticed. Will do what I am able, as far as your initial requests, but now see where you have gotten with efforts.
Advertising world is a total bitch, eh? And you possibly thought some major players would see where you were comming from? From their own hearts, no less? Sorry, not trying to knock. You have your heart in the right place. However, money and business rule universally. Hate this fact, but a truth nonetheless.
No matter what the initial foundations of some certain 'rags', you have to realize they are a major business. Yes, regardless of what you would like to think, a business like any other. So, ... some personal opinions tend to get stiffled out of expediency. And, out of that expediency, some opinions will not be heard.
Your on the right lines on the competive ad stuff, but have to interject a little observance. If you try to get into an escalation of ads..... Whom, exactly is going to benifit? Only way this would work is to divert nearly all ad traffic to site. Do not think that is possible. Say you get, at best, a fifty-fifty split in views.Could be, some see one, and not the other. ( Could go both ways). Maybe some see both, but only check one. ( Which one, mind you?). Think money would be hard spent in this manner. Especially considering the amounts needed to maintain effort. (Especially considering monthly effort).
Sorry, I do not have the answers here, but think you have made an excellent start on trying to take care of some of these probs. With a bit of thought, and more input, I think something will come of this. You got some damn good ideas, and have gotten some good suggestions. I am hopefull that time will provide an answer. It will be needed eventually. Not just on this specific problem, but several to eventually come.

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Thor]
    #366557 - 08/04/01 09:16 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

heheh, ever think about asking a friendly hacker to wreak havoc on his site???? I'm not someone who can do this, but surely some of you out there know someone who can =) for crying out loud, if they can shut down Ebay, I'd think this asswipe's site would be no problem.



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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Shroomph]
    #4331356 - 06/24/05 01:02 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Good to see some of the old timers' still out there, after a long leave of absence. Going through some of my old posts, and seeing how things panned out far as some of those posts. Nice to see I wasn't too far off point. Good to see Thor & MJ still out there after all this time. (Saw you in other posts, but just bringing up an old dog.) Plus, have to refind my way around new digs now, I guess. :wink: Gives me a bit more confidence in coming back here. Time proves out all, as I was trying to point out at the time. Kudos to you both. Whether you remember me or not, does not matter. Can never thank you enough for the past. Just impressed as hell as to what this site has developed into. Always knew it could turn into this, but regret I wasn't able to be a part of it the last few years. Hats off to you all. :wink:

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Condi1]
    #4333039 - 06/25/05 12:42 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I concur. Not only do they let him advertise, but in the newest issue, with the porn stars in it, they have a small one page article on how to grow shrooms at home. It is very vague, and downright incorrect at points. For instance, it says to inject between 10-12cc of spore solution into each jar.

I think someone should put together a decent, 2-3 page article, detailing the PF tek, and basic bulk. Instead of throwing in plugs for the Keeper, they can advertise Tenn STud, HMC, and myco bag. People dont know that there are pre sterilized products on the market.

There are a ton of people who bought the old homestead kit with petri dishes and stuff, or some garbage from mushroommagic, and never even tried. If they knew they could get a syringe, mycobag, and pre pasteurized poo, they would be all about it! Support the SHROOMERY SPONSORS!


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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: InjectTruth]
    #4338831 - 06/26/05 07:01 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

InjectTruth said:
It is very vague, and downright incorrect at points.  For instance, it says to inject between 10-12cc of spore solution into each jar. 





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Re: Post deleted by users_request [Re: McMan]
    #4339614 - 06/27/05 01:06 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

yeah this talk has been going on for some time now i remeber a few months a go hippie over at the other fourm was saveing up 1500$ for hightimes ad to steer people away from stp but i dont go to hippi3's site any more


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    #4340609 - 06/27/05 06:38 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Thats because Hippie's site blows.


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    #4350573 - 06/29/05 09:44 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

You guys can complain all you want to High Times but its not going to change a thing with shrooms.com(STP).
He is paying High Times $6,000 a month in advertising, they are not going to turn down that kind of revenue because he is taking advantage of newbies and charging to much or being deceitful with strain names. Those high prices is how he affords $6,000 a month in advertising.


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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Ryche Hawk]
    #4350807 - 06/29/05 10:47 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Exactly Hawk!~

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I looked at this months issue of High Times...

and the Keeper had a full page ad...two pages from the back.

it's sickening!~

he changed the name of his site from STP to shrooms.com for anyone that looks in the High Time mag.

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I also noticed that Homestead has an ad in High Times...

for their EZ-GRO kit.

Hopefully they will take some business away from the Keeper!~

:smirk:

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and in the Classified ads part of High Times...

there is an ad for Pacific Exotic Spora in Hawaii.

this is the vendor that sold PESA and PES Hawaiian years ago.

last I heard they had closed down....years ago.

real weird!~


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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Roadkill]
    #4355765 - 06/30/05 11:37 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

seems as if the shrooms are hitting publick rock eh ?

rather shitty..
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Re: Post deleted by users_request [Re: Ryche Hawk]
    #4356507 - 07/01/05 02:56 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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You guys can complain all you want to High Times but its not going to change a thing with shrooms.com(STP).
He is paying High Times $6,000 a month in advertising, they are not going to turn down that kind of revenue because he is taking advantage of newbies and charging to much or being deceitful with strain names. Those high prices is how he affords $6,000 a month in advertising.




so why not boycott hightimes, or advertise the shroomery website in highttimes. the reason i say boycott their choosing 6,000 a month in  fucking poeple over insted of supplying people with good qiuality stuff. what does that say about hightimes..........
ps ive had to much to drink and other stuff. :smile:


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