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Invisiblemjshroomer
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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Thor]
    #364296 - 08/01/01 03:02 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

THor, I was pissed after reading this post becasue a while back I believe this person tried to get me to give him a link at my shroom site. I declined becasue I told him I did not know him.

Now I see hee is ripping people off here so I too have written Steve Hager into investigating this person and I sent him a guest book message that I was going to write High TImes abolut him and also put a warning on my links page to nto order any items from the STP. His prices are disgusting and rediculous. His NJ strain is from Austria.

Anyway. screw him and his outlandish prices. ALso Thor, it is not a good idea to endorse a lot of spore dealerrs since we do not know them. I have seen this happen before here at the shroomery where people get a bunch of money and disappear.

Anyway, You and your partner are doing an excellent job revamping the shroomery.

AS for space. I think you should delete any of the MISC archives over three months old. I say this because that obnoxious game playing is not worth tying up space on the server to store worthless information. Since most of the MISC is bs between people who do not know one another.

I know I talked to you before about the General indforamtion section that it should be for general information regarding mushrooms since this is a mushroom site and other drug talk should and does belong in the other drug forum not in the general information, which is still cluttered with people asking questions of no importance at all to shrooms or to other drugs. and to several game players who like to disrupt the flow of free information.

Keep up the good work Thor. IT is appreciated by me and by many other contributors here at this sight.

mj

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    #364308 - 08/01/01 03:21 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: McMan]
    #364318 - 08/01/01 03:56 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: McMan]
    #364323 - 08/01/01 04:02 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

That sounds like an excellent idea McMan, I think all vendors should seriously consider it.

Lets discuss this in private and I'll contact all parties about doing this, I think this may benefit everyone while hurting the spore trading post immensly :smile:

Thanks for the nice words John, I do watch that we don't advertise for vendors who are not trustworthy.....

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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Thor]
    #364325 - 08/01/01 04:08 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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InvisibleCondi1
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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: ralphster44]
    #364461 - 08/01/01 08:29 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Yes Sir, they are,
But, as all late comers, they are part of a whole new bunch now. Hear your thinking here, McMan. Trust me......... But, I think what many are striving for is some sort of standard of product. Only way I can think of to accomplish this is some sort of commonly accepted standard of quality/price amongst vendors. Because of this exact problem, do not think much will be able to be accomplished here as far as trust goes in the community. Will appear as too much of a regulation and control issue to obtain any sort of consensis. And, actually, believe things should remain as is. Let the newby search for answers to probs, and all usually works out, in the end, if desire is there. Really hate to see things go mainstream, as I've been seeing. See more probs with that than anything.
But, as I've just mentioned, y'all got to realize we are dealing with a larger problem here, now. This is getting to be a much larger community of searchers, with it's own unique problems being presented every day. This is not necessarily a bad thing, but this prob is just one example of many things to come.
One thing none of you can prevent. You will always have some folk place faith in someone, somehow, somewhere.... without decent advice.. (This is not under your control). Then......, afterwards...., I can nearly guarantee you WILL see them pop up in some boards, SOMETIME later, voicing their bad experiences. For those situations, there is very little you can do, except try to deal with the problems after the fact, and help them along as able. Hopefully turn a bad situation into good. But, unfortunately, does not always happen. Greatfully, several in past have always been there to fill this type of void. Hope this will always continue till my last dying day.
Thor,
I appreciate your getting back to my simple question. It hasn't gone unnoticed. Will do what I am able, as far as your initial requests, but now see where you have gotten with efforts.
Advertising world is a total bitch, eh? And you possibly thought some major players would see where you were comming from? From their own hearts, no less? Sorry, not trying to knock. You have your heart in the right place. However, money and business rule universally. Hate this fact, but a truth nonetheless.
No matter what the initial foundations of some certain 'rags', you have to realize they are a major business. Yes, regardless of what you would like to think, a business like any other. So, ... some personal opinions tend to get stiffled out of expediency. And, out of that expediency, some opinions will not be heard.
Your on the right lines on the competive ad stuff, but have to interject a little observance. If you try to get into an escalation of ads..... Whom, exactly is going to benifit? Only way this would work is to divert nearly all ad traffic to site. Do not think that is possible. Say you get, at best, a fifty-fifty split in views.Could be, some see one, and not the other. ( Could go both ways). Maybe some see both, but only check one. ( Which one, mind you?). Think money would be hard spent in this manner. Especially considering the amounts needed to maintain effort. (Especially considering monthly effort).
Sorry, I do not have the answers here, but think you have made an excellent start on trying to take care of some of these probs. With a bit of thought, and more input, I think something will come of this. You got some damn good ideas, and have gotten some good suggestions. I am hopefull that time will provide an answer. It will be needed eventually. Not just on this specific problem, but several to eventually come.

Peace



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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Thor]
    #366557 - 08/04/01 09:16 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

heheh, ever think about asking a friendly hacker to wreak havoc on his site???? I'm not someone who can do this, but surely some of you out there know someone who can =) for crying out loud, if they can shut down Ebay, I'd think this asswipe's site would be no problem.



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InvisibleCondi1
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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Shroomph]
    #4331356 - 06/24/05 01:02 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Good to see some of the old timers' still out there, after a long leave of absence. Going through some of my old posts, and seeing how things panned out far as some of those posts. Nice to see I wasn't too far off point. Good to see Thor & MJ still out there after all this time. (Saw you in other posts, but just bringing up an old dog.) Plus, have to refind my way around new digs now, I guess. :wink: Gives me a bit more confidence in coming back here. Time proves out all, as I was trying to point out at the time. Kudos to you both. Whether you remember me or not, does not matter. Can never thank you enough for the past. Just impressed as hell as to what this site has developed into. Always knew it could turn into this, but regret I wasn't able to be a part of it the last few years. Hats off to you all. :wink:

Peace


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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Condi1]
    #4333039 - 06/25/05 12:42 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I concur. Not only do they let him advertise, but in the newest issue, with the porn stars in it, they have a small one page article on how to grow shrooms at home. It is very vague, and downright incorrect at points. For instance, it says to inject between 10-12cc of spore solution into each jar.

I think someone should put together a decent, 2-3 page article, detailing the PF tek, and basic bulk. Instead of throwing in plugs for the Keeper, they can advertise Tenn STud, HMC, and myco bag. People dont know that there are pre sterilized products on the market.

There are a ton of people who bought the old homestead kit with petri dishes and stuff, or some garbage from mushroommagic, and never even tried. If they knew they could get a syringe, mycobag, and pre pasteurized poo, they would be all about it! Support the SHROOMERY SPONSORS!


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InvisibleTCatz
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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: InjectTruth]
    #4338831 - 06/26/05 07:01 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

InjectTruth said:
It is very vague, and downright incorrect at points.  For instance, it says to inject between 10-12cc of spore solution into each jar. 





I bet STP loves that at $90 a pop :syringe:


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Re: Post deleted by users_request [Re: McMan]
    #4339614 - 06/27/05 01:06 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

yeah this talk has been going on for some time now i remeber a few months a go hippie over at the other fourm was saveing up 1500$ for hightimes ad to steer people away from stp but i dont go to hippi3's site any more


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Re: Post deleted by users_request [Re: onetime]
    #4340609 - 06/27/05 06:38 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Thats because Hippie's site blows.


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Re: Post deleted by users_request [Re: Spores_101]
    #4350573 - 06/29/05 09:44 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

You guys can complain all you want to High Times but its not going to change a thing with shrooms.com(STP).
He is paying High Times $6,000 a month in advertising, they are not going to turn down that kind of revenue because he is taking advantage of newbies and charging to much or being deceitful with strain names. Those high prices is how he affords $6,000 a month in advertising.


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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Ryche Hawk]
    #4350807 - 06/29/05 10:47 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Exactly Hawk!~

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I looked at this months issue of High Times...

and the Keeper had a full page ad...two pages from the back.

it's sickening!~

he changed the name of his site from STP to shrooms.com for anyone that looks in the High Time mag.

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I also noticed that Homestead has an ad in High Times...

for their EZ-GRO kit.

Hopefully they will take some business away from the Keeper!~

:smirk:

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and in the Classified ads part of High Times...

there is an ad for Pacific Exotic Spora in Hawaii.

this is the vendor that sold PESA and PES Hawaiian years ago.

last I heard they had closed down....years ago.

real weird!~


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Re: Sporetrading post and my letter to High Times [Re: Roadkill]
    #4355765 - 06/30/05 11:37 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

seems as if the shrooms are hitting publick rock eh ?

rather shitty..
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Re: Post deleted by users_request [Re: Ryche Hawk]
    #4356507 - 07/01/05 02:56 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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Ryche Hawk said:
You guys can complain all you want to High Times but its not going to change a thing with shrooms.com(STP).
He is paying High Times $6,000 a month in advertising, they are not going to turn down that kind of revenue because he is taking advantage of newbies and charging to much or being deceitful with strain names. Those high prices is how he affords $6,000 a month in advertising.




so why not boycott hightimes, or advertise the shroomery website in highttimes. the reason i say boycott their choosing 6,000 a month in  fucking poeple over insted of supplying people with good qiuality stuff. what does that say about hightimes..........
ps ive had to much to drink and other stuff. :smile:


Edited by ANTS (07/01/05 05:07 AM)


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