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Rumsfeld's New View On 911
    #3546536 - 12/27/04 02:51 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

http://www.rense.com/general61/rummy.htm

Rumsfeld's New View On 911
12-26-4


The following is from a December 24 CNN transcript of that network's report from Iraq. Xmas with the troops and a visit from Rumsfeld. Near the end of the report, we get this:

(Begin Videotape)

DONALD RUMSFELD, SECRETARY OF DEFENSE:

"And to change that way of living, would strike at the very essence of our country.

And I think all of us have a sense if we imagine the kind of world we would face if the people who bombed the mess hall in Mosul, or the people who did the bombing in Spain, or the people who attacked the United States in New York, shot down the plane over Pennsylvania and attacked the Pentagon, the people who cut off peoples' heads on television to intimidate, to frighten -- indeed the word "terrorized" is just that. Its purpose is to terrorize, to alter behavior, to make people be something other than that which they want to be.

And that is exactly what we cannot allow to happen."

-- end CNN transcript snip from Rumsfeld.

Well, well. "SHOT DOWN THE PLANE OVER PENNSYLVANIA" ?

Did Don just let a cat out of a bag?

If so, who shot down the plane? "Al Qaeda people" on the ground?

Of course, the CNN team let this go by like scrambled eggs in a diner when the patron actually ordered ice cream.

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Re: Rumsfeld's New View On 911 [Re: usefulidiot]
    #3546750 - 12/27/04 04:55 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Apparently using a term loosely is lost with some people.

Ever notice how some people refer to the 9-11 hijackers as suicide bombers.. that they "bombed" the WTC? They shot two planes through the World Trade Cetner, I mean flew, er, blew up. They landed there I think. :crazy2: :rolleyes:


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Re: Rumsfeld's New View On 911 [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3546856 - 12/27/04 05:45 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

> They landed there I think.

*laugh*


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Re: Rumsfeld's New View On 911 [Re: usefulidiot]
    #3549603 - 12/27/04 08:44 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Worldnetdaily picked up on this also..

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42112

Rumsfeld says 9-11 plane
'shot down' in Pennsylvania
During surprise Christmas Eve trip, defense secretary contradicts official story
Posted: December 27, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern


? 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

WASHINGTON ? Ever since Sept. 11, 2001, there have been questions about Flight 93, the ill-fated plane that crashed in the rural fields of Pennsylvania.

The official story has been that passengers on the United Airlines flight rushed the hijackers in an effort to prevent them from crashing the plane into a strategic target ? possibly the U.S. Capitol.

During his surprise Christmas Eve trip to Iraq, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld referred to the flight being shot down ? long a suspicion because of the danger the flight posed to Washington landmarks and population centers.

Was it a slip of the tongue? Was it an error? Or was it the truth, finally being dropped on the public more than three years after the tragedy of the terrorist attacks that killed nearly 3,000?


Donald Rumsfeld

Here's what Rumsfeld said Friday: "I think all of us have a sense if we imagine the kind of world we would face if the people who bombed the mess hall in Mosul, or the people who did the bombing in Spain, or the people who attacked the United States in New York, shot down the plane over Pennsylvania and attacked the Pentagon, the people who cut off peoples' heads on television to intimidate, to frighten ? indeed the word 'terrorized' is just that. Its purpose is to terrorize, to alter behavior, to make people be something other than that which they want to be."

Several eyewitnesses to the crash claim they saw a "military-type" plane flying around United Airlines Flight 93 when the hijacked passenger jet crashed ? prompting the once-unthinkable question of whether the U.S. military shot down the plane.

Although the onboard struggle between hijackers and passengers ? immortalized by the courageous "Let's roll" call to action by Todd Beamer ? became one of the enduring memories of that disastrous day, the actual cause of Flight 93's crash, of the four hijacked jumbo jets, remains the most unclear.

Several residents in and around Shanksville, Pa., describing the crash as they saw it, claim to have seen a second plane ? an unmarked military-style jet.

Well-founded uncertainly as to just what happened to Flight 93 is nothing new. Just three days after the worst terrorist attack in American history, on Sept. 14, 2001, The (Bergen County, N.J.) Record newspaper reported that five eyewitnesses reported seeing a second plane at the Flight 93 crash site.

That same day, reported the Record, FBI Special Agent William Crowley said investigators could not rule out that a second plane was nearby during the crash. He later said he had misspoken, dismissing rumors that a U.S. military jet had intercepted the plane before it could strike a target in Washington, D.C.

Although government officials insist there was never any pursuit of Flight 93, they were informed the flight was suspected of having been hijacked at 9:16 am, fully 50 minutes before the plane came down.

On the Sept. 16, 2001, edition of NBC's "Meet the Press," Vice President Dick Cheney, while not addressing Flight 93 specifically, spoke clearly to the administration's clear policy regarding shooting down hijacked jets.

Vice President Cheney: "Well, the ? I suppose the toughest decision was this question of whether or not we would intercept incoming commercial aircraft."

NBC's Tim Russert: "And you decided?"

Cheney: "We decided to do it. We'd, in effect, put a flying combat air patrol up over the city; F-16s with an AWACS, which is an airborne radar system, and tanker support so they could stay up a long time ...

"It doesn't do any good to put up a combat air patrol if you don't give them instructions to act, if, in fact, they feel it's appropriate."

Russert: "So if the United States government became aware that a hijacked commercial airline[r] was destined for the White House or the Capitol, we would take the plane down?"

Cheney: "Yes. The president made the decision ... that if the plane would not divert ... as a last resort, our pilots were authorized to take them out. Now, people say, you know, that's a horrendous decision to make. Well, it is. You've got an airplane full of American citizens, civilians, captured by ... terrorists, headed and are you going to, in fact, shoot it down, obviously, and kill all those Americans on board?

"... It's a presidential-level decision, and the president made, I think, exactly the right call in this case, to say, I wished we'd had combat air patrol up over New York.'"

Earlier stories:

The downing of Flight 93

Was United Flight 93 shot down Sept. 11?

'Fighting knife' found in wreckage of Flight 93


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Re: Rumsfeld's New View On 911 [Re: usefulidiot]
    #3549832 - 12/27/04 09:23 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

i saw that, and that was a little weird. and zadulla do you ever notice they are called suicide bombers and not HOMICIDE bombers?


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Re: Rumsfeld's New View On 911 [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3549961 - 12/27/04 09:46 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Cry baby islamophobes call them homicide bombers.


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Re: Rumsfeld's New View On 911 [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3550064 - 12/27/04 10:06 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Get that fox news shit off the message board.

I wonder how the ignore function works on the board.

Edit: You are now ignoring this user. You will no longer see the body of any of their posts.

HAHAHA Fox news shit begone!


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Re: Rumsfeld's New View On 911 [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3550138 - 12/27/04 10:18 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

islamaphobe haaa yea maybe, but not all of them. just a few million of them.


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Re: Rumsfeld's New View On 911 [Re: tomk]
    #3550192 - 12/27/04 10:28 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

cant a guy like mushrooms and fox news? oreilly factor is not bad and Laura dew is alot better to look at than that turkey neck Judy woodruff..


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Re: Rumsfeld's New View On 911 [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3550208 - 12/27/04 10:31 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

What are you talking about


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Re: Rumsfeld's New View On 911 [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3550240 - 12/27/04 10:36 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

i thought you were calling me islamophobe. i am only concerned with a few million Islamic extremist and not all of the Islamic people. (billions)


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Re: Rumsfeld's New View On 911 [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3550265 - 12/27/04 10:41 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

A FEW MILLION Islamic extremists? Hahaha. Try maybe 50-60,000.


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Re: Rumsfeld's New View On 911 [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3550333 - 12/27/04 10:52 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

i will also admit this (sorry off topic) but when people around the world including Muslims see American TV (for example MTV) i understand how they want no part of our culture.

but this world is going to have to find a middle ground.


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Re: Rumsfeld's New View On 911 [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3550456 - 12/27/04 11:10 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

There is no doubt they shot that plane down. how on earth would they find pieces 5 miles apart from each other.


Not only that but when the airplane crashed into the towers. They found Mohammad Attas passport conveniently located near wtc 66.


What a crock of shit.


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Re: Rumsfeld's New View On 911 [Re: usefulidiot]
    #3555437 - 12/29/04 02:13 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

How could he have made that slip up?





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Re: Rumsfeld's New View On 911 [Re: Learyfan]
    #3557272 - 12/29/04 02:31 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Heres a site worth checking: www.whatreallyhappened.com


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Re: Rumsfeld's New View On 911 [Re: Learyfan]
    #3557529 - 12/29/04 03:47 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

He couldn't have. It was on purpose.


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Re: Rumsfeld's New View On 911 [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #3558267 - 12/29/04 07:19 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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He couldn't have. It was on purpose.




Why would he purposefully say something that's contrary to the official story? I'm pretty sure it was a mistake.







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Re: Rumsfeld's New View On 911 [Re: Learyfan]
    #3558360 - 12/29/04 07:43 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

holy crap! is that a real quote on that pic Leary??


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Re: Rumsfeld's New View On 911 [Re: usefulidiot]
    #3558704 - 12/29/04 09:21 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

rumsfeld is a criminal and he sucks horse cock.. oh and by horse cock i mean the penis of a  large ungulate mammal, one of the seven modern species of the genus Equus.. .. :tongue:


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