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OfflineMycoJunkie
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50% Horse poo 50% Vermiculite => Will this work better than just 50/50+?
    #3544565 - 12/26/04 05:51 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah so..

I only have coastal hay, and I don't want to screw up and of my jars (This is my first time).  I've heard from some ppl that coastal hay will rot, but from others I hear its fine to use.  I hate all of this conflicting info :frown:

Anyway, I figured, just to be safe, ill go without the hay.

Do you think 50/50 Poo/Verm, followed by 50/50+ once it colonizes would work better than Hawke's 50/50+ mix by itself?

**Edit** Oh yeah, I'm also gonna add 10% sphagum Peat moss, and I think I might even add a little sawdust.  I'm just gonna have to produce it myself. . .


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Re: 50% Horse poo 50% Vermiculite => Will this work better than just 50/50+? [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3545663 - 12/26/04 10:30 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

50/50+ is a casing mix, your talking about substrate...neither will work better then the other because they serve different functions.

Horse poo is good (if aged and leeched properly), I think thats too much verm..not sure how much you should use but using all that verm will take away nutes...poo will hold moisture well, especially horse so use less verm. I also wouldnt add peat moss, would lose you nutes and not do you any good..peat moss is good for casing. Sawdust probably wouldnt hurt but I wouldnt use it...cubies will colonize wood but dont fruit from it...they get very little nutes from it.

Just a little info, I'm sure you'll get more, good luck..


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Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: 50% Horse poo 50% Vermiculite => Will this work better than just 50/50+? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3545761 - 12/26/04 10:55 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I see. So what about 75/25 Poo/Verm?

Also, Just so I get more opinions:
Is Coastal hay alright to use in spawn?
Also, Should I look for the oldest poop possible? I kind of mixed and matched it, until I read in a couple of places that older poop is better. I don't see why it matters if I leach it anyways, in fact logically it seems to be that poop that is a little bit fresher.. say 1-2 months old or so, would be better since it would contain more of the nutrients in the grass/oats/food that the horse(s) ate.


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Re: 50% Horse poo 50% Vermiculite => Will this work better than just 50/50+? [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3545826 - 12/26/04 11:14 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

POO as Scatmanrav said is NOT a casing layer.

Poo has nutes, the shrooms feed off the poo, a casing layer delivers moisture, thats it.

No hay is garbage, first of all, you dont spawn hay to Poo/straw.

You spawn grains to bulk subs like poo.

Fresh poo is NOT better, it contains high levels of N(amoung other things) its WAY to acidic.

You either need old aged poo, or fresh "leached" poo.

Good Luck

Psilocybeing :wink:


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Re: 50% Horse poo 50% Vermiculite => Will this work better than just 50/50+? [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #3545859 - 12/26/04 11:23 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Horse poo is prime after a year they tell me...leeching PROPERLY takes that long..older the better.

Its like curing bud....takes time to properly age.


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: 50% Horse poo 50% Vermiculite => Will this work better than just 50/50+? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3546089 - 12/27/04 12:48 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Its possible to leach fresh poo(it can be done), but personally I have only used aged poo.

And I do agree that ....
"Its like curing bud....takes time to properly age."

But unlike Bud, you CAN rush poo.........if you have to.
(I wont ever have to though, I live in a town thats not only a farming community, there are hores rights groups etc, and when I roll into my town, it says.........."welcome....to.(city name) expect hores on our roads.

Every summer I just hit up the farmers for some poo. :grin:


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