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Offlinefranco_on
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It's Christmas, I'm jewish, I love it
    #3541187 - 12/25/04 02:14 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Hello all,

Or should I say

Shalom,

Actually I am not practicing in anyway.  I like touching women, let alone have them walk beside me not behind me.  I like eating pork; it tastes good, and especially with cheese on it (let?s not have a vegetarian discussion please).  And I do not know all 8 meanings of Shalom other then 'hello', 'goodbye', and 'peace'.  I cast off my Judaism a few years ago, but still identify as one.  I love having this birth right, especially at this time of year.

Yes, in the past the lonely Jew on Christmas has been a stereotype to pity and/or mock.  In reality this is not so.  If anything we love having this stereotype to work within. It lets us setup for a whole new year of mischievous dealings that strengthens our already strong hold on society.  The period of time between Christmas Eve and New Years allows us to regroup and review while you non-Jews are not giving us your money in our stores.  Those 'Gnomes of Zurich' are devious bastards who give us a 'run for our money' every year.

I kid, cause I love.....  :grin:

Actually I do love being Jewish at this time of year.  'Atom and his Package' has a really good song about the subject, 'What Jews do on Christmas' I believe.  I usually find myself with a lot of time to reflect upon the year, myself, and who I am.  I find myself alone, as I do tonight and tomorrow, to do what I want when I want.  As all my friends have gone home I am alone, but I do have high spirits (80 proof is high right)?  This is also approximately about the 4-6 month mark after my birthday so I can review how I have spent half a year of my life.  Most years I can actually say that I did something worthwhile of my time, that I did not just consume air and space.  I cannot say that all Jews do this, some do, and as I am sure a lot of you 'Others' do too (that?s what we like to call you non-Jews :grin:).  This half year I can say a lot has happened, actually more then I think any other year.  I discovered some stuff about myself this summer, mainly due to a pagan friend of mine.  I think I finally love myself (as opposed to the love I will give myself seeing as I have so much time on my hands :grin:).  I hope all of you love yourselves too (not meant in the way that I will love myself :grin:).

Most Jews this time of year really love the season.  We do not have to buy many gifts, and any personal purchases can wait till Boxing Day.  This allows us to go into the new year with less debt and more money.  As well we get your days off and take trips to warm places (not Hell, we do not have one).  Our support of the Chinese community at this time of year, as every year, goes unimpeded.

We do go to Chinese restaurants on Christmas.  There is one place in particular I can think of in Montreal, PQ.  Every Christian holiday for the last 50+ years of this places history, Jews from all over the island trek to Snowdon St. to a place called 'Yangtzee Chinese Restaurant'.  Good food, better memories.  I truly believe if it were not for the Jewish community and Christian holidays, this place would have closed long ago.  I love the place and miss it badly.  I am not going to see family this year, so I cannot get my fix.  Any Montrealers out there care to FedEx me a care package?!?!?.

I will begin my drinking after I rise tomorrow, that is after sleeping in VERY late.  Possibly pack a bowl (possibly should read 'probably and definitely').  I love you all.  Have a good holiday, I am.  Alone as to fill that stereotype, but I am not lonely inside.  I will be stronger come January 1st (actually 2nd or 3rd, recovery days).  You will all knuckle under to my will "Mwahhahah"  :grin:!!  I think Future Shop Is going to have a good sale this year, get myself a cheap DVD burner.  My parents are going to the Caribbean this year, so I got cheap cigars and cheaper boozes coming to me soon.  And I got love, which I dole out to you guys, but in small packets, budgeted so that it lasts me the whole year, and can be placed in my charitable deductions column on my income tax form  :grin:.

I think I have rambled, insulted, and made a big enough fool of myself now.  So PM the poor lonely Jewish boy, if I am still coherent enough to type I will respond.  I truly do wish all of you happy holidays.  I am not this big an asshole, this bad at being funny.  Strange not only am I Jewish, I am Canadian, should be the funniest person ever.  I raise a glass to you all "l'chayim" (to health and/or life).

Safe journeys to you through life,
Chef


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Re: It's Christmas, I'm jewish, I love it [Re: franco_on]
    #3541846 - 12/25/04 11:36 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I think your post was wonderful. Happy Hannakuh!

I never think about Jews and Christmas. I always (mistakenly) assume that everyone celebrates Christmas. Then I will at least 2x at the holidays wish a Jew a Merry Christmas, only to hear, "Not all of us are Christians, you know." Oops! Mea Culpa!

I don't mind Jews not being Christians. Jews have a different way of celebrating at this time of year, and for a different reason.

I was always jealous of Jews when I was growing up (we even had a few Jews in the private Catholic school I attended!!) because they received a present a day for 8 days. That just didn't seem fair to me. I had to wait until Christmas day, with maybe one on Christmas Eve if I could talk my parents into opening a gift early, and then there were maybe 4 or 5 presents, not 8. (I think my parents just had way tooo many children. They should have stopped after me.)


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The day will come when, after harnessing the ether, the winds, the tides, gravitation, we shall harness for God the energies of love. And, on that day, for the second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire.  -Teilard


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Re: It's Christmas, I'm jewish, I love it [Re: Frog]
    #3541965 - 12/25/04 01:21 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

me too, but
wife is christian &
her whole famdamily came over so
I ran around like a kosher pickle buying things then I deboned the turkey and prepared the roasting
then I cleaned the toilets - then I vacuumed
then I dressed and cooked - then I made up a tree over top of my diefenbachia by dangling lights on threads in a cone pattern from threads on push pins stuck into the ceiling with a big star on top.
after everyone ate and opened presents I fell asleep under this marionette christmas tree
I got some nice books too
we used the menora as a candelabra 'cause I forgot to buy table candles.


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Re: It's Christmas, I'm jewish, I love it [Re: franco_on]
    #3542000 - 12/25/04 01:40 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

EXODUS 23:19  "Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk."

This is a brilliant moral teaching. It is grounded in the kinship we humans have with other mammals. It is primal empathy. Just to let you know - this has NOTHING to do with the ignorant interpretation of not eating meat with dairy. So, eating a cheeseburger according to countless mindless Jews is an abominable materialistic misunderstanding of an otherwise brilliant moral allegory. I share this as one Jew to another - a Messianic Jew who has long aspired to become a Jew after the example of Jesus of Nazareth. And lo, I have just imparted esoteric Jewish gnosis to you. Merry Christmas :wink:

I once cast off the limiting, ethnocentric, exclusivistic religion of Judaism in order to expand into a Universal Being. I attained that sublime summit in sufficient measure to be transformed forever, and found that like Moses on Sinai or Jesus on the mount, one always must follow the "Ascent Towards Universality" with the "Descent Towards Realization." And, in 'coming down' from one's Communion with Universality, one must manifest that Universality in the Individual. Me being a middle class Jewish American male, that is the Individual form through which the Universal shall shine forth. There is only inclusivity, not exclusivity. One remains what one is, but transcends what one is by identifying with the Universal Human - Who is the 'image and likeness' of the Universal Being - GOD. I see in Jesus (Y'shua) THAT Universal Human, the Adam Kadmon of the Kabbalah.

Your drinking and doping reveals your pagan side. I have one too. It is manifested artistically in the ivy strewn Green Man mask above the fireplace, in the grape clusters and leaves that surround the fresco of Dionysus offering wine to Eros behind our kitchen range. There are others. BUT...Jewish and Greek objects adorn our votive table: crucifix and menorah, statues and Kabbalistic Tree of Life, Icon and Eternal Light dominate the spiritual influence of the house - and of my psyche. Inclusiveness, integration of the opposites, acknowledgement not exclusiveness or separation or denial.

Remember thou this:  "You are all sons of God through faith in Jesus Christ...There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."  - Galatians 3:26

"You asked me what it takes to reach the Highest High - You laughed and said 'Nothing's that simple - but you've been told many times before, Messiah's pointing to the door - no one had the guts to leave the Temple.
I'm Free - I am Free-e - and Freedom tastes of Reality."  - The Who

Claim your spiritual inheritance!

Shalom. Shanti. Pax. Peace.


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself


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Re: It's Christmas, I'm jewish, I love it [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #3542284 - 12/25/04 04:42 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

MarkostheGnostic said:
Remember thou this:  "You are all sons of God through faith in Jesus Christ...There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."  - Galatians 3:26





Amen!

Nice post, Markos.  :heart:


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Re: It's Christmas, I'm jewish, I love it [Re: Frog]
    #3560292 - 12/30/04 04:41 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Thank you all for responding, It makes my feel good that I am not alone. Sorry for not getting back TO MY OWN POST sooner, but cold season is upon us and as well a hangover from my own celebrating.

I wish I got presents for 8 days, never happened in my family. Last year I got a copy of Larousse Gastronomique, A very handy cooking bible. This year money for a humidifier (no more waking up with hangovers when I did not drink).

So I did celebrate with myself. It was great, all I did was sit around and do NOTHING. I do not try to do that often, so it felt good to not go outside. I gave myself the gift of agoraphobia for a day. I settled in to nice bottle of Alize (cognac and passion fruit) that I got as a gift (mixes well with 7up or tonic water). No pot this year, was not in the mood. I did not feel lonely, even though I knew that almost everyone else I knew was with family. I do not know if this is due to never celebrating Christmas or being at peace with myself. I hope it is the peace.

Marko, absolutely incredible post man. I did not think anyone would post a reply, especially one of such depth. Much in it I care to respond and discuss but not today. We will on later dates I hope.

So I am off to bed, sweet dreams and immune systems to engage. Peace to all, even after Christmas.

Have a safe journey through life,
Chef


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