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Cactus spines. supposed trichocereus.
    #3538991 - 12/24/04 01:27 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Hello, I got ahold of some unidentified trichocereus which i intend to ID in awhile when i get a camera. For now i have a question:
When I cut this cactus some spines hit my skin and it hurt like arse, neurotoxic poison in small amounts. anyway, when i touch certified pedro spines it doesnt happen the same. is the poison in spines an indicative of species, psychoactive or not?

I've seen a lot of pictures of pedros, the more common are the ones with scarce little spines but sometimes i come up with pictures of cactus with bigger spines, is this really possible?

UPDATE: if it serves, 4 hours later there are marks on the spots where I was pinched. The cactus looks a lot like the first nitid cactus on this photo from left to right. it also looks like those tall at the (contrary to)front. <- english is not my first language, srry.
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Re: Cactus spines. supposed trichocereus. [Re: pod3]
    #3553277 - 12/28/04 05:46 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Did you just say what I think you just said?


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Re: Cactus spines. supposed trichocereus. [Re: faslimy]
    #3553411 - 12/28/04 06:13 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I couldn't tell from the photo. Don't worry about poison from cactus spines, you'll live. Give us a photo of the exact plant and we can tell you.


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Re: Cactus spines. supposed trichocereus. [Re: Stonehenge]
    #3553847 - 12/28/04 07:47 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I used to think cacti had poison in their spines like a wasp has, sometimes the pain goes beyond what a needle prick should do. It is actually not poison (or psychoactives :rolleyes:) but dirt that accumulates. Euphorbia are similar to cacti and have spines that can be very poisonous


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Re: Cactus spines. supposed trichocereus. [Re: faslimy]
    #3554075 - 12/28/04 08:44 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I think you were exposed to Euphorbia latex. Some succulent Euphorbias superficially resemble cacti. The latex (sap) of all Euphorbias is poisonous and may cause a rash.

No cactus flesh that I'm aware of is poisonous and it's physically impossible to receive an active dose of mesacaline via a wound.

Finally, cactus spines are sterile. They are normally so clean that your immune system won't try to get rid of them when they're lodged in your body.


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Re: Cactus spines. supposed trichocereus. [Re: nookjohn]
    #3555628 - 12/29/04 03:24 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

>>I used to think cacti had poison in their spines like a wasp has, sometimes the pain goes beyond what a needle prick should do.


Some spines also have hundreds of microscopic needles around them, and those can cause a rash if you get alot on you.


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Re: Cactus spines. supposed trichocereus. [Re: Legoulash]
    #3556452 - 12/29/04 09:41 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Some spines also have hundreds of microscopic needles around them, and those can cause a rash if you get alot on you.




I'm not aware of any cactus species with spines with microscopic needles.

Opuntia species and their close relatives like Pereskiopsis have glochids. Glochids are fairly short spines with one microscopic hook each. Glochids can be removed easily enough with tweezers, but I wouldn't go holding a Pereskiopsis cutting like a baseball bat.


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