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OfflineTheDrugStore
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Lighting and darkness for fruiting
    #3536465 - 12/23/04 05:46 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I have a simple question. When in fruiting mode does there need to be darkness? Is there a limit of light the casings can receive?

The reason i ask this is because temps are in the 68 range with the lights off, with ights on i get a near perfect temp.
What should i do and will 18-24 hours of light be better or worse than 12-16 hours?


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Re: Lighting and darkness for fruiting [Re: TheDrugStore]
    #3536478 - 12/23/04 05:50 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Emulate nature. You'd have a hard time living with a bright hot lamp shining down on you 18 hours a day =P specially when u wanted to sleep. Is your light inside your chamber or outside of it? If its inside you might want to move it outside (if the top is transparent) and add a heating element of somesort to regulate constant temp inside. 8on/16off is plenty of light during fruiting. ~D


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Re: Lighting and darkness for fruiting [Re: TheDrugStore]
    #3536480 - 12/23/04 05:51 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I dont know the best lightcyclus for fruiting but some hours (like 10 at night) of 68F wont harm your growth. They grow a bit slower then at 74 but they will be fine!

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Re: Lighting and darkness for fruiting [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3536513 - 12/23/04 06:04 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

having light on 12-18 hours a day definitely wont hurt.. at least in my opinion.. and if it is colder in you room at night then run the light at night and have it off during the day..


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Re: Lighting and darkness for fruiting [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3536522 - 12/23/04 06:06 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Yea, i understand it isn't "nature's way".
My temps seem to only be fine with the light on because of course it generates heat, bringing up my "night" temps from the 68 range to the 76 range.

So whats more important, keeping temps at there specific range of giving these guys some darkness.

Also, its not like mushrooms photosynthesize so its not like they need darkness to break down sugar molocules. Also speaking of going agaisnt natures way... When a lot of people grow pot, during the vegative stage they give there plants 18-24 hours of light. This sure as hell is not nature's way, but they sure benifit from what nature does not provide.

So what do the professional mycologists advise? Keeping temps at the proper range or providing the right amount of light/darkness?


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Re: Lighting and darkness for fruiting [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3536635 - 12/23/04 06:38 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I ussually leave my lights on for about 12 hours a day but sometimes they get 16 hours because of long work hours. The shrooms seem to grow just fine but I notice most of my changes in growth over night when the lights are out. I use 2 15 watt incandescent bulbs http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=3828&N=2004+113179 one white and one blue through the ceiling light fixture. The temp in the room is ussually 78 degrees fahrenheit but sometimes goes down to 76. I haven't had any problems fruiting but the lower temperatures can stunt the shrooms growth. Maybe you can get a bigger see-through tub (big enough to fit your fruiting chamber in) then fill the bigger tub with 2" of water and some peroxide. The tub and lid has to be see through so that light can reach your fruiting chamber. Get a fish tank heater http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=3852&N=2004+112984 to heat the water and put it in the bigger tub and set it to 82 degrees fahrenheit. You will also need a thermometer to stick on the outside of the tub. http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=3900&N=2004+112986 Put your fruiting chamber in the bigger tub so that it is floating. Now put the lid on. That should keep your shrooms warm enough to grow. Sorry no pictures.


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Re: Lighting and darkness for fruiting [Re: DK1]
    #3536812 - 12/23/04 07:38 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Whats most important is what you WANT, if you want mushrooms you will have fine mushrooms with 68 at night and 74 at day. If you want highest yield, dont ask me, I dont know.

I grew my marijhuana outside for the most, and had "trees" of 10 feet in hight, with buds thick as my arms, pounds of weed coming from it.

I dont know any indoor grower who lights 24*7 at any time of the cyclus.

Ok.  I dont think we should compare mushrooms with the cannabis! :wink:

I searched the posts here but did not find opinions on the best lightning cyclus during fruiting....

When fruiting daylight starts now at 8 or 9 in the morning here, some halogen is lighted during the day depending on how dark it is outside. At 2 o clock at night I go to bed and turn  of the lights. So my shrooms get about 18 hours of light.

Dont be too paranoid bout it, I am not at all, but it would be cool to have some veterans opinion on this!


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Re: Lighting and darkness for fruiting [Re: TheDrugStore]
    #3536829 - 12/23/04 07:43 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

growing temps here vary between 68 lows and 78 highs, mostly 70-74.

No additional heating is applied. They fruit fine at roomtemperatures id only use a heater in a cold basement or closet.

I have 3 inch geolite in a 30 gallon transparant tub. 2,5 inch water with two 7 inch long airstones at the bottom.


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Re: Lighting and darkness for fruiting [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3536865 - 12/23/04 08:02 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I agree that range in temp is perfectly fine.


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Re: Lighting and darkness for fruiting [Re: samtodd]
    #3536897 - 12/23/04 08:12 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

:laugh: :thumbup:

What about your lightning cyclus?


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Re: Lighting and darkness for fruiting [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3537288 - 12/23/04 10:03 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

i hope there is no lightning


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Re: Lighting and darkness for fruiting [Re: samtodd]
    #3538194 - 12/24/04 06:07 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Only some local thunder? :laugh:


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Re: Lighting and darkness for fruiting [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3538581 - 12/24/04 11:29 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

i use 12/12 for pins then switch to 6/18 afterwards. mushrooms seem to grow more in the dark (based on my experience so far), and with 6/18 seem to get beefier.

sometimes my fruiting temps. dip during the night, it's hard to keep track of them whils you're asleep. it's just going to slow things down, not stop them.

why don't you try a CLEAN blanket over the top during the night? this can hold in a few degrees of heat.


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Re: Lighting and darkness for fruiting [Re: ZeroArmy27]
    #3538653 - 12/24/04 11:56 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, I was gonna say, with an avatar like that, you know you need to mimic nature and that the fruits of  need sleeping time to gather energy ; )

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Re: Lighting and darkness for fruiting [Re: LouiseLouise]
    #3538966 - 12/24/04 01:20 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

my buddy wakes up and turns them on then turns them off when he goes to bed.. seems to work pretty good


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