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Offlinethe_phoenix
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drugs and sanity
    #3532579 - 12/22/04 07:00 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/3532572/an/0/page/0

I posted this in the physical and mental health forum, but figured it could stir up some worthwhile discussion here...


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Re: drugs and sanity [Re: the_phoenix]
    #3535054 - 12/23/04 08:51 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Interesting but you seem to be suggesting that people accept at face value all insights gained from the psychedelic experience? Correct me if im wrong.

If thats the case Id say thats not great advice! Although I do agree that trying to resist certain insights could case "problems"

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Re: drugs and sanity [Re: GazzBut]
    #3535202 - 12/23/04 10:52 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

while tripping what is happenning should be accepted as it is, usually more stuff is happenning than could normally occur, as each thing keeps on happenning longer (is not cancelled as new things begin). new composite overlays occur with no "true" lingering meaning which may yet be mere flashes of potential use for later.

accepting all that occurs, while it happens, as parts of the special entheogenized terrain is important.

alternatively, trying to fight it makes one insane.

pretending that it is still that way when the trip is over is sad in a different way.


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Re: drugs and sanity [Re: redgreenvines]
    #3535273 - 12/23/04 11:31 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I think the phoenix was referring to the way you integrate the experience into everyday conciousness. Some insights gained whilst tripping can prove very rewarding if they are integrated whereas some of the insights may be misleading and more to do with egoic distortion than a clear "communication" with the psychedelic dimension, which is why I said we shouldnt take all insights on board but I also agree with the Pheonix that trying to resist and deny insights can cause a form of cognitive dissonance which may not be particularly healthy, especially if you keep on trippin and keep on resistin!


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Re: drugs and sanity [Re: GazzBut]
    #3536491 - 12/23/04 05:57 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

couldn't agree more phoenix :smile:

if one's intents are pure and their own, acceptance comes naturally, and there is nothing 'negative' that can possibly be perceived.


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Re: drugs and sanity [Re: deff]
    #3537135 - 12/23/04 09:23 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Everyword he wrote all makes sence, that is how I live my life, and its amazing.


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