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Tyvek
    #3529231 - 12/21/04 10:24 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Alright, so I've had people tell me that tyvek is used to go over the canning lid and then secured in place with the metal ring. This is by Magash's advice. Others, on the other hand, have told me to place the tyvek on first, then the metal lid, then secure with ring.

Which way does it work best?


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Re: Tyvek [Re: Tweexican]
    #3529269 - 12/21/04 10:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i have heard of both ways as well and both seem to work. try setting up your jars using one method and the other half of your jars using the second method. have some fun!

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Re: Tyvek [Re: gema]
    #3529815 - 12/22/04 01:00 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Either way works but if you put tyvek first you cant write on it...


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Re: Tyvek [Re: Tweexican]
    #3529899 - 12/22/04 01:19 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)


:wink:

:wink:

JUST ........ :grin:....my humble opinion.

If you are ANAL about it, do it like above........THEN

Cover the outside of jar lid with tyvek, held in place with rubber bands.

I just use coffee filters (3 or 4)as a outer dust cover, like this.


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Re: Tyvek [Re: agar]
    #3530206 - 12/22/04 02:40 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

agar, everytime you've given me advice I've listened. So far you've proved my intuition right. I'll try your way.


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Re: Tyvek [Re: Tweexican]
    #3530257 - 12/22/04 03:06 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I even PC them with coffee filters covering the jar top:

If you remove jars - while HOT - exterior coffee filters - dry in a heat beat. They are cheap, easy to work with & you can write on them.

If it DIDNT work, I sure would not keep doing it - that way.

BE SURE - to shake shit out of WBS, millet or rye jars - after PC & WHILE HOT (think oven mitts).

Will save you having unshakable jars - LATER:

Shake again, before innoc or G2G.... just to make sure they will.

Big ass coolers make great jar & bag incubators.

Simple heating method is fish tank heater in jar of water inside cooler.

But pinhole in lid - or loose lid to provide high RH, so jars don't lose their own RH & dry out. Dry heat will do that.

Use something for grates, so air can circulate a bit.

Just let them DO their thing. Don't handle, fondle & eyeball them evry day. The less you eyeball them - the faster they colonize (Ya right).

If starting from SPORES.... BE PATIENT. Sometimes it takes a WEEK, even a bit longer for spores to germinate & get growing.


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Re: Tyvek [Re: agar]
    #3530326 - 12/22/04 03:51 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

put the tyvek on the outside, something about contamination being more common when the tyvek is in contact with the grain/popcorn. and of course being able to write is key.

ahhh i found it, read this about what I said above, just couldnt remember exactly

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...;o=&fpart=1


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Re: Tyvek [Re: themills]
    #3530379 - 12/22/04 04:22 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Have you done it a few thousand times? I have with it under the lid & am not stopping.

Again, if ANAL about it, put one sheet peice of UNDER the lid & another OVER.

That gives you DOUBLE protection.


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Re: Tyvek [Re: agar]
    #3531458 - 12/22/04 01:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I think the problem is if people have to moist of jars and flip them...I flipped some grain jars with tyvek before and they had some moisture build up in them (why I flipped them) but the moisture sat on the tyvek and green actually grew on the tops of the jars...luckily my tyvek at that point was on the outside, the grain inside was fine after I poured alcohol on the top of the moldy tyvek. Of course had I not overheated the slightly overmoist jars to begin with they wouldnt have needed to be flipped and if I didnt flip them it wouldnt have been a problem. Other then that I've had no occourances of tyvek contaming or anything.

The only reason I switched from tyvek under the lid to over is to write on it. You could do it agars way but IMO you just have to buy coffee filters then and its another thing to remove and put back on when doing g2g's or whatever..if you do like 50+g2g's at once..they already get tiring. With tyvek on I've never needed another filter/foil/anything on top to prevent contams and with tyvek on top I can write on it.



But I'm sure agars ways would make a person fell more secure if you were willing to go about it. I'm just kinda lazy...I spend countless hours PCing, innoculating, harvesting, ect as it is so I cut corners where I can....


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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