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Offlinepenlight438094
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Whats wrong with these casings
    #3527437 - 12/21/04 01:08 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

These are pf-tek style jars with brown rye flour instead of brf, Z-strain

dunked then cased 60/40 verm/coca coir, frist flush

birthed from the casing to show scale of layers

why am I only growing mini-shrooms



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Re: Whats wrong with these casings [Re: penlight438094]
    #3527454 - 12/21/04 01:13 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

my first 2 casing small only half pint each hasn't even begun to colonize the casing layer been a while..going 2 weeks but i think my prob is i didn't let the jars completely colonize they were about 90%


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Re: Whats wrong with these casings [Re: djred]
    #3527456 - 12/21/04 01:13 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

some will say your substrate layer is thin?


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Re: Whats wrong with these casings [Re: djred]
    #3527470 - 12/21/04 01:19 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Hrm...sorry I don't have any input, but I've gotta say it:

I've not seen a lot of pics of whole casings being birthed...I like how you can see all the mycelium and layers along w/ the shroomies! How long have you had them cased for? Did you use a pint or so for the casing?


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Re: Whats wrong with these casings [Re: PoC]
    #3527480 - 12/21/04 01:24 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

i used tiny half pint each case they are in a tiny tupperware bowl.had them in the tnt the casing has growth in the middle but it seems to be fading away..like the growth has stopped ,but they were done almost 2 weeks ago i wanna say..but no worries,just trial and error till i get it.


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Re: Whats wrong with these casings [Re: djred]
    #3527488 - 12/21/04 01:26 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

i only birthed it to show the layers, normally you would want to avoid this as it will cause it to pin from the sides and bottom rather that the top


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Re: Whats wrong with these casings [Re: penlight438094]
    #3527644 - 12/21/04 02:23 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

You seem to be using very little substrate. Also the casing layer seems very thick from your pic-or it could be that some casing soil fell between the spacing in the container and the substrate making it look thicker than it is. But it really does look like a very thin layer, even if the pic is misleading.
How much substrate are you using?


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Re: Whats wrong with these casings [Re: KlingonFromUranus]
    #3527874 - 12/21/04 03:16 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

KlingonFromUranus

how the hell did you get the yeild in your sig pic

also the casing was made from three 1/2 pint jars

now, i have read that if i put a 2 inch layer of substrate i will yeild the largest shrooms, is this true, how can i get the biggest shrooms possible without dung/straw/compost. I currently have colonized WBS and BRF PF-tek jars, what should i do


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Re: Whats wrong with these casings [Re: penlight438094]
    #3528017 - 12/21/04 03:50 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

2 inch substrate, which means .5-1 inch of casing on the bottom and on the top. That comes out to a 3-4" casing. Substrate is the white part of the oreo.


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Re: Whats wrong with these casings [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3528036 - 12/21/04 03:57 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

2 inch is not thick enough IMHNO. You can case grain with a substrate depth of 4 inch with 1/4 inch of verm on bottom and 1/2-3/4 inch of 50/50+ (verm coir limestone) on top.

But what gives the biggest I dont know!


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Re: Whats wrong with these casings [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3528044 - 12/21/04 03:59 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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2 inch is not thick enough IMHNO. You can case grain with a substrate depth of 4 inch with 1/4 inch of verm on bottom and 1/2-3/4 inch of 50/50+ (verm coir limestone) on top.

But what gives the biggest I dont know!




This is my first grow. If I get 10 or 15g dry off my first flush, I'll be happy. Here is what im using:
(Mini-double tub tek)



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Re: Whats wrong with these casings [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3528049 - 12/21/04 04:00 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

n33t setup!


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Re: Whats wrong with these casings [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3528053 - 12/21/04 04:01 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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n33t setup!




Who me?
I have a grow log. But since I'm going to jamaica im gonna have to postpone it.


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Re: Whats wrong with these casings [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3528125 - 12/21/04 04:22 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

o? :P Still a nice small scale setup.


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Re: Whats wrong with these casings [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3528172 - 12/21/04 04:35 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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o? :P Still a nice small scale setup.




So you think it'll work? I only have 3" to work with.


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Re: Whats wrong with these casings [Re: penlight438094]
    #3528339 - 12/21/04 05:42 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Yes sure it will.


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Re: Whats wrong with these casings [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3528528 - 12/21/04 06:53 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

MushroomFriend said:
2 inch is not thick enough IMHNO. You can case grain with a substrate depth of 4 inch with 1/4 inch of verm on bottom and 1/2-3/4 inch of 50/50+ (verm coir limestone) on top.

But what gives the biggest I dont know!




I must disagree. IMO 1.5-2 inches is the optimal substrate depth for grain to produce the most mushrooms. You WILL get more mushrooms from two 12x12 casings 2 inches thick then one 12x12 casing 4 inches thick. Though the latter casing would give you bigger mushrooms. All conditions being the same of course.

According to hyphae, the same is true for bulk.


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Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
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Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Whats wrong with these casings [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3528616 - 12/21/04 07:22 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah I thought they were talking bout BIG mushrooms, big mushrooms = thick substrate.
So with "2 inch not think enough" I meant not thick enough if you want BIG shrooms.

He asked:
"now, i have read that if i put a 2 inch layer of substrate i will yeild the largest shrooms, is this true, "

I think teh answer on this is "No".


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Re: Whats wrong with these casings [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3528661 - 12/21/04 07:36 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Sorry, I read that as "the largest amount of shrooms"...just read over it quick. Certainly it wouldnt get you the biggest shrooms at 2"..IMO the largest shrooms will be from 6-10 inch substrate..but 2" will give you the largest amount of weight per amount of substrate..at least IME with grain and Hyphaes with bulk..


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Whats wrong with these casings [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3529395 - 12/21/04 11:25 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

my best yeild was 197.8 on the first flush of a 1 1/2 inch deep casing, it was 8 PF style jars, is this a good yeild, dried to 26g somehow, and thats "cracker" dry


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