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Offlinerexxx
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new guy grow question.
    #3522921 - 12/20/04 02:22 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Hey all I'm new to this and i searched the whole site and archives but could not find the answer to my question. So here goes. I'm going to be growing for the first time and i purchased a pr-sterilized substrate cake that comes in a bag. I an supposed to inoculate the substrate through a hole in the bag and wait. Now i see all you guys take out the cakes when they start to pin but the directions i got with the bag say don't open the bag until mushrooms are fully grown?
Does this sound right? can they be grown this way? or do they have to be moved to some sort of incubator? thanks rexxx


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Re: new guy grow question. [Re: rexxx]
    #3522938 - 12/20/04 02:26 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

"cake" in filter/patch bag makes no sense. Bet is "substrate" in bag.


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Re: new guy grow question. [Re: rexxx]
    #3522945 - 12/20/04 02:27 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

We call it "invitro" when the mushrooms grow in the same jar they were incubated in.

I'd recommend that you inoculate the media in the bag, place in dark warm place. Once fully colonized cut it out of the bag in a sterile environment, submerge it in water in the refridgerator for 12 hours. Place it in a tub on some wire mesh. Squirt the walls of the tub after every fanning, 3-5 times a day. Expose to light 12on/12off.


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Re: new guy grow question. [Re: dmc_]
    #3523024 - 12/20/04 02:44 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

OK so i take it that the results will not be to great if i just leave them in the bag? When i cut the cake out of the bag can i still be at risk of contaminating the cake ?


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Re: new guy grow question. [Re: rexxx]
    #3523050 - 12/20/04 02:50 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

fully colonized cake is very resistant to contams.


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Re: new guy grow question. [Re: rexxx]
    #3523134 - 12/20/04 03:07 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Personally becasue you bought pre made thing follow the directios as written , that way if you have problems , the vendor is more like to help if he "knows" you can follow basic instructions (or my fave term "idiot sheets" ) no offense meant to you at all  :wink:

"ANY" time you handle cake or make changes to enviro brings on the "potential" of contams . Well colonized or not , it all depends on what type of contam lands and trys to take hold , but healthy myc can and does fight off contams .

I also assume you do not have any sort of grow chamber set up ?

Then leave in bag like vedor says , the bag acts sort of like a micro environment for the mushies .

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Re: new guy grow question. [Re: tripndicular]
    #3524022 - 12/20/04 01:49 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Progress, evolve, learn! Take the steps to making that into something. I say cut it out of the bag once full colonization is achieved. No risk, no gain.


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Re: new guy grow question. [Re: dmc_]
    #3524533 - 12/20/04 04:51 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

dmc_ said:
Progress, evolve, learn! Take the steps to making that into something. I say cut it out of the bag once full colonization is achieved. No risk, no gain.




Yeah but too much risk is no gain too.


Edited by RTate (12/24/08 09:57 AM)


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