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Moonshoe
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Re: Phyco-active plant spirits [Re: iliketoplay]
#3522556 - 12/19/04 10:05 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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This makes me think that maybe the mushroom spirit does not like water.
^ that would match up with my experience. all the times ive gone in the shower tripping ive had a sense of malevolence, anxiety or repulsion.
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Re: Phyco-active plant spirits [Re: iliketoplay]
#3522595 - 12/19/04 10:19 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've felt rather confused in the shower at higher doses, it can be a disorientating experience even just laying down and relaxing. However, near fires, mushrooms blend in perfectly- just lay back and watch the flames lick the wood and create orange visual energy
But I don't think drugs have elemental spirits. It's fun to go in water when I'm extremely high, but I don't think cannabis is a water spirit. All hallucinogens seem to be fun to do with a fire around, but I don't think LSD is a fire spirit. It's just the experience the element provokes in your body, not that the drug is inherently connected to any element- I think all drugs are connected to all elements as one
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Re: Phyco-active plant spirits [Re: Ravus]
#3522984 - 12/20/04 12:37 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've had some really fun swims on mushrooms, high doses even, and I didn't drown once! (of course, if it occurs to you while high on mushrooms that mushrooms don't like water, then you'll feel anxiety if you're in the shower or whatever.)
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Re: Psychoactive plant spirits [Re: Zekebomb]
#3523067 - 12/20/04 12:53 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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My only water-oriented trip hangup is peeing in toilets... I often get lost in the dazzling Bellagio-esque fountain show, which usually affects my balance.
I'll leave it at that.
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Re: Psychoactive plant spirits [Re: Sclorch]
#3523676 - 12/20/04 08:45 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Some month ago I read an article about that very subject. Unfortunately I can`t remember the author`s name. But anyway, he came to the same conclusion: that in fact the different plant spirits each have their element. As far as I recall he said DMT goes with water, mescaline with fire / hot climates and shrooms with wood / forest. To me that makes sense. Shrooms seem best when taken in nature with some trees around. And though I love the desert,I wouldn`t want to shroom there. And also not in a moist climate / in water.
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Moonshoe
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Re: Psychoactive plant spirits [Re: iliketoplay]
#3524929 - 12/20/04 04:32 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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to contact a plant spirit all youll need to do is go into a place of total wilderness seclusion, and meditate there to total mindless silence. then , when the silence is complete, try to open your conciousness to the vibe or energy of the plants and wildlife around you.
Dont expect human language or visions of gnomes. the silence itself may be the wisdom that is imparted to you.
or just take shrooms and walk in the woods and listen to all the grass screaming obscenities at you (ive done that)
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Re: Psychoactive plant spirits [Re: Moonshoe]
#3525198 - 12/20/04 05:54 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Moonshoe said: or just take shrooms and walk in the woods and listen to all the grass screaming obscenities at you (ive done that)
R U serious ? If so, what exactly did they scream ? I`m curious.
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Re: Psychoactive plant spirits [Re: trinity7]
#3525330 - 12/20/04 06:59 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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oh im dead serious, although i oversimplified.
it was a wierd experience i was out at my cabin and i dropped shrooms before going for a walk. alot of wierd wierd stuff happend on that walk but at one point i was following the woodland path and i swear to god, every single plant, tree and shrub was simultaneously talking to me. each plant had a distinct voice that in some way matched its physical appaerance (trees had deep slow voices, sprouts had high shrill ones, gorsebushes had gravelly rough voices etc)
all of them were talking at once so it was just like a cacophany of noise and i couldnt make out the specific words of any individual plant, but i could tlel they were all saying different things. the only individual word i could make out was my name shouted over and over again as each plant tried to get my attention 'DAN! DAN! DAN!"
it was kinda whacked.
that was a very auditory trip come to think of it, as i later heard totally amazing music coming from the woods as well...
i guess i dont know they were 'obscenities' but some sounded annoyed at me
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Re: Psychoactive plant spirits [Re: iliketoplay]
#3525410 - 12/20/04 07:33 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Very interesting. I?ve experienced communications with trees ( gawd, sounds like a hippie ) and animals as well. Or perhaps communication is the wrong word. It`s rather like the notion that the tree or animal or whatever sees you are in a state where maybe you can communicate with him. And something comes across, but I can`t seem to obtain the focus for a more satisfying communication. And the more I try, the harder it gets.
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Re: Psychoactive plant spirits [Re: Moonshoe]
#3525605 - 12/20/04 08:58 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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im not really a spritual person but i would totalyl agree certain drugs/plants seem to "communicate" very intersesting things with specific substances. me its the woods often, good and bad its always memorable. water is a big one for me as well. i would say forest, water, and sky are THE biggest things that affect me on any mind altering expedition.
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Re: Psychoactive plant spirits [Re: iliketoplay]
#3546957 - 12/27/04 04:37 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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are'nt mushrooms like 90% water? :P
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Re: Psychoactive plant spirits [Re: Gomp]
#3547185 - 12/27/04 06:33 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think the air and space elements are difinely the ones i would attribute to salvia. But if you relax and integrate with the space element, genrally all the other gross elemnent will be under control.
Watch out with Aunite Sally dude, apparantly she can really KICK ASS
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Re: Psychoactive plant spirits [Re: Sinbad]
#3547256 - 12/27/04 07:16 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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attribution to elements is merely a mnemonic the reality dance is everything together at once
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Re: Psychoactive plant spirits [Re: iliketoplay]
#3548669 - 12/27/04 03:36 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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I enjoy taking showers while tripping on shrooms. I usually do it just when I am either coming up, or coming down. The last time I did it, I felt as though I were bathing in rainbows. But then, I've always really been attracted to water. I'm an Aquarius, which is the 'water bearer' (although an air sign) so I wonder if that has something to do with it.
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Re: Psychoactive plant spirits [Re: MOTH]
#3549906 - 12/27/04 07:36 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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im aquarius too but i really dont beleive in thsoe things.
i totally agree with you on the showers. when i take any type of substance my skin gets quite sensative. even alcohol and weed makes my skin and often muscles feel thigns much more intensly, in a good way. if you have ever done LSA and experienced the "body orgasm" as its sometimes called that is what a shower is to me. every drop is like a surge of great feelings. in nature where i prefer to do my thing, i always find myself swimming under the influence. total peace of mind. closest thing i can come to heaven with i supose.
as for your salvia q, iliketoplay. i find that in a clearing in the forest on a clear night is the BEST experience i have on salvia. looking into space is teh top shit with that plant in my opinion. i really couldnt see swimming or even standing for a shower on salvia...drowning comes to mind.
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