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Offlineiliketoplay
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Salvia Resin Advice
    #3521081 - 12/19/04 05:54 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I coulda sworn there was a section for "other" psyco-actives, but I did not see any so I put this in the general section.

I have been experimenting w/ dmt, mesciline, and salvia.

I did the mesciline via san pedro, but was far to vile to get enough in me. Mixed w/ smoked salvia leaves dig give me some slight visuals. Seems my dreaming and body buzz was the most effected. I did dmt as a brew. Experienced temporary insanity, and a direct link to my entry and exit points for chi.

I am moving up to a salvia extract, since I can not get much effect from the leaves alone other then a deep sleep, and a hard time waking up.

I ended up w/ salvia extrac resin. My source was out of regular extract. And has not gotten back to me in a bit. I was hoping someone could give me some links to salvia resin use.

I order a salvia resin, but am unsure of, if it needs further preparation or can be smoked as is. I was hoping I could just put it on the leaves and smoke it.

Any help is appreciated.


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Re: Salvia Resin Advice [Re: iliketoplay]
    #3521094 - 12/19/04 05:57 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

I have TONS like 40g of 20x extract and all you do it put it in a bong(perfered) or a bowl or lace a joint with it and take 2-4 HUGE hits holding them in and go from there. I have yet to have an out of body experience but all my friends have


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Re: Salvia Resin Advice [Re: collegeshroom]
    #3522454 - 12/19/04 11:39 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

But is this the same as a resin? I am just unsure if the resin is a finished product or not, i should have it in the mail any day now, and just wantedto do my research and prepare.

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Re: Salvia Resin Advice [Re: iliketoplay]
    #3523691 - 12/20/04 10:51 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

From what I can tell the resin you are getting is just a less pure extract. Did he say it was non-standardised?

It will still work, though you may need to use more of it.

PS. There is another forum called 'Other Drugs Discussion' but you won't be able to see it until you've made a certain number of posts and/or been here a certain length of time. I don't have a clue how many posts you have to make or how long it is though sorry.

EDIT: You may want to check out that forum thing Here here I'm not use if the restrictions even apply to ODD.


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Re: Salvia Resin Advice [Re: iliketoplay]
    #3523741 - 12/20/04 11:18 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

This is the first time I hear about Salvia resin. I don't know. It could be a non-standardized Salvia extract, like st0nedphucker said.

Let us know how it looks or make a picture if you've received the resin. I'm interested.


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Re: Salvia Resin Advice [Re: Annom]
    #3523935 - 12/20/04 01:00 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

In the picture it looks like a shiny black rock.

From what I have been reading about extraction is that before the final process it is a resin that has to be processed further for a tinture (sp) extract.

Looks like that is what this is. I may try it as a resin, but most likely will process it.

I mainly want to find data on it so that I can dose it properly. I know you have to be careful w/ salvia extract. I don't want to go to far till I can find a sitter, I tend to jouney alone. My friends can not handle what I see or learn when I am under.


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Re: Salvia Resin Advice [Re: iliketoplay]
    #3525733 - 12/20/04 11:38 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

A salvia 10x extract - for example, is just the *resin* off 10g of leaf, put onto 1g of leaf... Just extracted with alcohol... Your probably just getting it before it was put onto leaf, so i imagine it would be more potent because it doesnt have the minute weight of the leaf.

I strongly suggest you sit down and educate a friend, and make sure he understands that when you break through there will be no response and things will get weird, and he might have to hold you down, or keep your from hurting yourself or your surroundings, and that if your trying to *hold on* that your body may gain sufficient strength through fear.

Dont journey alone!

Ive been held down when i tried to *hold on to my body* and while i was unaware of my body, my body was aware of the fear, and i tried to get up and was held down at the shoulders, My sitter said i just about pushed his feet through the floor.


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Re: Salvia Resin Advice [Re: headset]
    #3527085 - 12/21/04 11:09 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for the advice. I will NOT try this w/o a sitter.


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Re: Salvia Resin Advice [Re: iliketoplay]
    #3527184 - 12/21/04 11:45 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Hi

I'm not experienced in Salvia usage myself (need to grow up a lot before dabbling in that which is currently beyond me), but I've heard it's a good idea for your sitter to be experienced in Salvia use themself.

Rich


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Re: Salvia Resin Advice [Re: nerdcam]
    #3544754 - 12/26/04 07:06 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Here is what my seller told me.
Quote:

To tell you the truth the resin is more potent but it
takes longer to burn. Therefor 1 hit of the extract is
equal to about 3 hits of the resin. So if you want to
smoke 1/4-1/2 gram at one time to achieve the highest
effects I'd say go with the extract. But if you tend
to dance with the salvia ally often or even several
times a day the resin is much better because you can
use much less therefor it will last much longer(1g).





I think it will be here tommorow. I will report back once I try it out.


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Re: Salvia Resin Advice [Re: iliketoplay]
    #3545072 - 12/26/04 08:40 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Depending on the depth, and satisfaction of your experience - a possibility is of dissolving the resin in 99% Isopropanol, and redistributing it onto either salvia leave's - or other inactive plant carrier.

Determine the potency first..


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Re: Salvia Resin Advice [Re: headset]
    #3546065 - 12/27/04 12:41 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

How long would it need to evaoporate. Or could you link me to the process?

thanks,


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Re: Salvia Resin Advice [Re: iliketoplay]
    #3546552 - 12/27/04 02:57 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia.shtml

There we go. Just scroll down - Just evaporate until it starts drying, and then let it air dry.


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Re: Salvia Resin Advice [Re: headset]
    #3550894 - 12/28/04 12:45 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

One thing I am having a hard time figuring out is the amount of extract applied to leaves. Some guides state volume of smokeable leaf w/ extract, but not really finding how much extract to put on how much leaf.

thanks,


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Re: Salvia Resin Advice [Re: iliketoplay]
    #3552367 - 12/28/04 01:55 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Heading over to a friends house to go meet salvia.... wish me luck.


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Re: Salvia Resin Advice [Re: iliketoplay]
    #3553615 - 12/28/04 06:55 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Hrmmm.....

Well I did not get much of anything. I got some gravity, and some closed eye visuals, but mostly just a distorded visual field. I guess I need to try regualr extract.


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