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InvisibleKingOftheThing
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hahaha iraq is such a mess
    #3520624 - 12/19/04 03:46 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

stupid bush, im glad this will be his vietnam
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041219/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_041219182927

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Car bombs rocked Iraq (news - web sites)'s two holiest Shiite cities Sunday, killing at least 62 people and wounding more than 120, while in downtown Baghdad dozens of gunmen carried out a brazen ambush on car, pulling out three election officials and executing them on the pavement in the middle of morning traffic.

The bombs exploded an hour apart. First, a suicide blast ripped through parked minibuses at the entrance to the Karbala bus station. Then a car bomb shattered a central square in Najaf, crowded with residents watching a funeral procession. The city police chief and provincial governor were among the group but were not hurt.

Also Sunday, a militant group claimed to have kidnapped 10 Iraqis working for an American security contractor, threatening to kill them unless the company pulls out of Iraq.

The violence was the latest in an insurgent campaign to disrupt the crucial Jan. 30 elections, the first national polls since the fall of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites).

While many have feared that voting in the Sunni areas of northern and central Iraq will be hampered ? if not impossible ? because of the spiraling violence, Sunday's attacks highlighted that even the strongholds of Iraq's Shiite majority in the south are vulnerable. Shiites have been strong supporters of the elections, which they are likely to dominate.

The car bomb in Najaf detonated in central Maidan Square where a large crowd of people had gathered for the funeral procession of a tribal sheik ? about 100 yards from where Gov. Adnan al-Zurufi and police chief Ghalib al-Jazaari were standing.

Youssef Munim, head of the statistics department at Najaf's al-Hakim Hospital, said 47 people were killed by the explosion and 69 were wounded. Two more dead and 21 other wounded were taken to the nearby al-Zahraa Hospital, according to nurse Mohanad Abdul Redha.

"A car bomb exploded near us," al-Zurufi said. "I saw about 10 people killed."

Al-Jazaari believed he and al-Zurufi were the targets of the attack, in which he said three explosives went off at about 2:45 p.m. Both men were unhurt. It was not immediately clear what the other explosions were from.

Residents were pulling bodies of the dead from damaged shops at the square, which is about 400 yards from the Imam Ali Shrine, the holiest Shiite site in Iraq.

The blast sheered the facades off surrounding buildings and brought down part of a two-floor building on a main thoroughfare. Dozens of men clambered over the rubble, digging for survivors.

The bombing in Karbala, about 45 miles northwest of Najaf, destroyed about 10 passenger minibuses and set fire to five cars outside the crowded bus station. Firefighters tried to put out the blazes as ambulances ferried burned and bleeding casualties to the nearby al-Hussein hospital.

Ali al-Ardawi, assistant for the hospital's director, said 13 people were killed in the attack and 33 injured.

It was the second bombing in Karbala in a week. On Wednesday, a bomb went off at the city's gold-domed Imam Hussein Shrine, killing eight people and wounding 40 in an apparent attempt to kill a top aide to Iraq's most powerful Shiite cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani.

The shrine, located near the bus station, was hit by a March 2 suicide bombing that killed 85 people and wounded 100. The holy sites in Najaf and Karbala, south of Baghdad, house the tombs of Shia Islam's most revered saints.

Insurgents on Sunday also carried out a new attack on election officials, when about 30 militants hurling hand grenades and firing machine guns attacked a car carrying five employees of the non-governmental Independent Electoral Commission as they were driving to work on Baghdad's central Haifa Street, the scene of repeated clashes between security forces and insurgents.

Pistol-wielding gunmen ? their faces uncovered ? pulled three of the employees out of the car and forced them to kneel in the road, while the traffic behind them on the thoroughfare braked to a halt and panicked drivers tried to reverse away from the ambush site.

The gunmen punched one of the men as he lay on the ground, then the militants shot all three men at point-blank range. The two other passengers in the election employees' car escaped unhurt.

The commission identified the slain men as Hatem Ali Hadi al-Moussawi, deputy director for the commission's Karkh office, and two of his office employees ? Mahdi Sbeih and Samy Moussa. The commission condemned the killings as a "terrorist ambush" and said one gunman was killed in the confrontation.

The commission "urges the Iraqi people and all its political, religious, religious and social leaders and the authorities to condemn this inhumane crime," it said in a statement.

A police official said the ferocity of the clashes prevented police from nearing the area. The attackers, most of whom were seen brazenly roaming Haifa Street without anything covering their faces, later set fire to at least one vehicle before fleeing the area, witnesses said. U.S. and Iraqi National Guard forces cordoned off the area after the attacks. A U.S. military spokesman had no immediate details.

Also, insurgents claiming to represent three Iraqi militant groups issued a videotape showing what they said were 10 abducted Iraqis who had been working for an American security and reconstruction company.

Masked insurgents in the video said they represent the Mujahedeen Army, the Black Banner Brigade and the Mutassim Bellah Brigade, all previously unknown groups. Nine blindfolded hostages could be seen lined up against a stone wall and a 10th was lying in a bed, apparently wounded.

The militants said they would kill the hostages if the company, Sandi Group, does not leave the country. They also threatened more attacks on its Iraqi operations.

Chad Knauss, an American and deputy chief operations officer of Sandi Group in Iraq, declined to comment on the claims. The company, based in Washington, employs 7,000 in Iraq.

Insurgents detonated two roadside bombs and a car bomb targeting U.S. forces in the volatile city of Mosul, 225 miles northwest of Baghdad, in three separate attacks during a two-hour period Sunday. Three soldiers were wounded in one roadside bomb blast, while there were no casualties from the others, according to military spokesman Lt. Col. Paul Hastings.

Gunmen attacked homes of Kurdse in the Arab-majority town of Hawija, 150 miles north of Baghdad, killing four Kurds, according to Maj. Gen. Anwar Mohammed Amin, chief of the Kirkuk Iraqi National Guard.

Associated Press Writers Mariam Fam and Sameer N. Yacoub in Baghdad, Abdul Hussein Obeid in Najaf and Gassid Jabbar in Karbala contributed to this report.


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Re: hahaha iraq is such a mess [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3520763 - 12/19/04 04:25 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I agree with you that Bush is a jackass who is screwing things up in Iraq... but I don't think that it's funny. Read the first line of that article: "killing at least 62 people and wounding more than 120." This shit is in the news every day... No matter what your political motives are, please don't forget that these are people dying. It's not just some shit on the news, it's not just numbers you read in an article - it is human beings. And that isn't funny. That's a fucking tragedy. :sad:


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Re: hahaha iraq is such a mess [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3520780 - 12/19/04 04:29 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

So the next time some member of the loony left denies that the only thing that matters to them is that they be right, regardless of how bad the news is, I can cite you.  (I do not concede that the news is bad, just that you are happy that you think it is). :blowme:  I bet you can't wait for a nuke in.....where did you say you live again....to prove the administration is incompetent on security.


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Re: hahaha iraq is such a mess [Re: zappaisgod]
    #3520997 - 12/19/04 05:34 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

How not funny that is.

Was this a laugh of despair? I hope so...


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Re: hahaha iraq is such a mess [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3521114 - 12/19/04 06:01 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Disagreeing with a war is one thing. However, that is not a reason to think it is funny when things don't go a certain way for a certain side. People are dying and being maimed(Iraqis and Americans). That is not something to laugh about.

You may hate Bush and his policies, but I find it terrible if you laugh at a situation where your fellow countrymen are dying and getting their legs blown off.


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Re: hahaha iraq is such a mess [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3521246 - 12/19/04 06:37 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

conservatives in this country and around the world have gotten so disgusting with their actions and rhetoric all i can do is sti back and laugh...conservatives are pushing us towards the end very fast. from the conservatives in the middle east (alqueda, bin laden) to bush and his crew...all the violence in the world is a result of conservative values. it makes me sick. fuck them, fuck their war


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Re: hahaha iraq is such a mess [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3521304 - 12/19/04 06:54 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Liberals:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041219/ap_on_re_mi_ea/radio_for_peace


COnservatives:









conservatives are shitty fucking people...


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Re: hahaha iraq is such a mess [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3523556 - 12/20/04 09:23 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Shitty people are shitty people regardless of their political or religious beliefs. A true conservative is no more evil than a true liberal.

Take of the shit covered glasses and you might see this.  :wink:


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Re: hahaha iraq is such a mess [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3524584 - 12/20/04 05:04 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

How about you get an anal tampon and stop posting useless information?


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Re: hahaha iraq is such a mess [Re: st0nedphucker]
    #3525408 - 12/20/04 09:33 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

st0nedphucker said:
Shitty people are shitty people regardless of their political or religious beliefs. A true conservative is no more evil than a true liberal.

Take of the shit covered glasses and you might see this.  :wink:




name a liberal dictator or liberal mass murderer


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Re: hahaha iraq is such a mess [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3525955 - 12/21/04 12:34 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)


name a liberal dictator or liberal mass murderer

Stalin.

He was in charge of a communist state that claimed to pursue equality for all, hatred of "imperialists", and utopia on earth. His reign was marked by cruelty and murder.

Castro is another example. He runs a socialist state where there is ample income redistribution and the government still evokes images and memories of the "revolution". Cuban political dissidents are routinely thrown in jail and the people are not allowed to vote.


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Re: hahaha iraq is such a mess [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3526111 - 12/21/04 01:14 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Mao could be brought up. Most people tend to view communism as liberalism.

The biggest problem is everyone has their own idea of the meaning of liberal or conservative. The definitions usually taught in school are that liberals favor changing things, while conservatives favor keeping things the same. In my experience it seems that people tend to find one half of the dichotomy worse than the other. When liberal is used as a dirty word it usually means socialism, when conservative is used as a dirty word it usually means authoritarianism/totalitarianism.(and in my opinion both of these can be considered to be more true than false)

If my words are correct it is odd that though liberal tends to be opposite of conservative, the meaning of these words in a derogatory sense are not opposite. They are basically perpendicular in meaning, libertarianism is the opposite of authoritarianism, and well there really isn't a nice "ism" to be opposite of socialism, but i'd have to say it'd be something to the order of laissez faire-ism.

From my point of view people tend to point out the bad, as they see more prevalent, parts of the "worse" "side"... While disregarding ills of the other "side" to some extent. Because of this "battle mentality" as I'll call it, the useful social-organizing tool, the dichotomy, has been perverted into a dual lane highway to hell. Fighting against authoritarianism gets you socialism, fighting against socialism gets you authoritarianism... They are bedmates.

(long on words, short on a point?)

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Back to the relative topic at hand. I have to agree with KOTT, I think Iraq is hilarious. I dont know whats funnier though... Watching the stupid attack the feeble or watching the serious getting offended.

Its just a shame that more innocent babies aren't killed, and possibly eaten and/or fucked.


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Re: hahaha iraq is such a mess [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3527221 - 12/21/04 11:55 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

It's hilarious to watch these compassionate conservatives exposed for what they really are. Greedy power hungry war profiteers. Whats even funnier is these people on this thread with there fake fuckn sympathy.


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Re: hahaha iraq is such a mess [Re: 1stimer]
    #3527885 - 12/21/04 03:19 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

fake sympathy?
for what? The dying masses?

Who are you to dictate the reactions of others? It is only apparent that any sympathy you may have is fake from what you say.


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Re: hahaha iraq is such a mess [Re: 1stimer]
    #3528301 - 12/21/04 05:26 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

HaHaHa iraq is such a mess...........that's real compassionate....


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America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

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Re: hahaha iraq is such a mess [Re: lonestar2004]
    #3529031 - 12/21/04 09:29 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

im not compassionate...im a hardline leftist..im not gonna call myself a liberal because my views on politcal correctness and gun control differ from libs. also, im not 100% fiscally liberal....id call myself a moderate who despises the policy, spending and direction of the current GOP


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Re: hahaha iraq is such a mess [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3529195 - 12/21/04 10:10 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

i agree with all of that but would never call myself a hardline leftist.


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

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Re: hahaha iraq is such a mess [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3529622 - 12/22/04 12:26 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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im not compassionate...im a hardline leftist..im not gonna call myself a liberal because my views on politcal correctness and gun control differ from libs. also, im not 100% fiscally liberal....id call myself a moderate who despises the policy, spending and direction of the current GOP



Other than the part about being a hardline leftist I agree with you on this. I hate the republicans, but I really fucking hate the democrats.


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Re: hahaha iraq is such a mess [Re: z@z.com]
    #3529667 - 12/22/04 12:34 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I think a lot of people feel that way, they hate the repoops and democraps, but hate one more than the other so they vote for the lesser of two evils.

If people went down to choosing a party that best represents their views, rather than choosing one that seems to be getting the votes, I think a lot more people would realize that other parties are much more in tune with their politics than the two main ones


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Re: hahaha iraq is such a mess [Re: Ravus]
    #3529769 - 12/22/04 12:53 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

its sad, i vote libertarian only if i know the Dem has no chance of winning.


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America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

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