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Moonshoe
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Re: The shroomery village. Please respond if you are interested. [Re: spudamore]
#3517613 - 12/18/04 04:10 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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btw everybody there is now a little poll up about this in the pub, i made it by droz's request, its not perfect i sort of made it off the top of my head. unfortunatly i left one to many options on one question so i just made it say 'dont pick this one' but guess what the smart asses do...
so go vote. just a little preliminary fact finding
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tak
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Re: The shroomery village. Please respond if you are interested. [Re: Moonshoe]
#3517638 - 12/18/04 04:25 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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This idea has been done so many times its sick.
I think its an awsome idea if people took it seriously. I also think that you need real motivation, not so we can smoke and trip all day. You wanna do that, move into a crack house with 50 other people.
My intent in this world is not to live for myself. If I were to join a commune with others like me, I would not want to step backwards into time. I would want to use cutting edge technology, actively sharing information with the outside world. The community I lived in would feel just as normal as any other town would, except for the better enviromental standards, civil rights, and governing.
There is also the problem with people. I am not perfect, nor are you. There will be conflict, and we would need to govern it somehow OTD is proof of this.
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Fucknuckle
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Re: The shroomery village. Please respond if you are interested. [Re: Wysefool]
#3517650 - 12/18/04 04:31 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wysefool said: IMO this shouldn't be done in the US, but a place where drugs are legal.
So in what countries are marijuana and mushrooms legal, and the climate can support marijuana?
I don't mean to be the guy who bust the bubble. But if any real progrees is to happen Drugs can not be the number one force behind it all. It has to be one of the many factors. This can be done in many countires. But if teh entire idea is just to have a place to get stoned with out getting arrested... I think it will fail. It is very i,portant that drugs be made legal but it ain't gonna happen over night amd if" Free reins on drugs" is the first motivator your asking for trouble
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Wysefool
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Re: The shroomery village. Please respond if you are interested. [Re: tak]
#3517657 - 12/18/04 04:34 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Maybe if people weren't so pessimistic it could get done. Of course there will be conflict, I think the people posting here in S&P would try their hardest to resolve it but in the end we could always just hold a tribal counsel and vote somebody off the island...
I would actually prefer that it NOT be governed, all matters that can't be agreed on should be voted on...
Of course we wouldn't have cutting edge technology, unless maybe a really rich person moved in. That doesn't mean out information could not be shared. There could be a public computer with a satellite connection and a system for who gets to use it and when. We could have a public website with a page for each member to share whatever might be on their mind. Or at the very least you can always communicate with the outside world using stones and chisels.
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Wysefool
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Re: The shroomery village. Please respond if you are interested. [Re: Wysefool]
#3517668 - 12/18/04 04:37 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you're creating a community of people from a place called The Shroomery whether or not drugs are the driving force they're going to be a major factor. I'd rather be prepared and live in a place where the drugs are legal than see some (if not most) of our tribesmen carted off to a jail-cell.
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FreakQlibrium
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Re: The shroomery village. Please respond if you are interested. [Re: Fucknuckle]
#3517671 - 12/18/04 04:38 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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It has to be one of the many factors why is that FN? are you speaking just in terms of THIS particular hypothetical community as suggested by Droz or in general terms? shit man, sorry for the bold type, Trendal, put down that can of mongoose beer and get in here and fix it man (no problem, freakq!)
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Wysefool
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Re: The shroomery village. Please respond if you are interested. [Re: FreakQlibrium]
#3517702 - 12/18/04 04:52 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Making your way in the world today takes everything you've got. Taking a break from all your worries, smoking lots of pot.
Wouldn't you like to get away?
Sometimes you want to go, where everybody knows your screenname, and they're always glad you came. You wanna be where you can see, our troubles are all the same You wanna be where everybody knows your screenname.
You wanna go where people know, people are all the same, You wanna go where everybody knows your screenname.
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Re: The shroomery village. Please respond if you are interested. [Re: FreakQlibrium]
#3517706 - 12/18/04 04:53 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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IF the idea is to have a community that drugs are legal and that is the entire plan then go for it.
I am getting this thread confused with the revolution thread.
Look I am not saying that people should pussy away from Legal Drugs all I am saying is if there is more at steak then the front page of your plan should not say " HEY FUCK YOU SIR WE ARE GOING TO GET HIGH AND FUCK YOU" Follow me ? Things must be done in a step by step order............ Unless you just want a farm so big the cops can't even think about getting to you. I think that to many people have done that over 30 years and where are they ?
See it just has to be done in a much different way.
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tak
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Re: The shroomery village. Please respond if you are interested. [Re: FreakQlibrium]
#3517735 - 12/18/04 05:00 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Having a wonderfull conversation about what would be a nice fantasy world is one thing, but getting stuff done is another. In order to get things done, there must be more than optomism. There need to be skeptics, and every single thing that happens must be questioned. This is entirely possible, but a big smile and a half assed plan will not cut it.
Also, as a shroomerite... I do use drugs. I also agree that drug laws are idiotic. On the same note, I can grow most drugs without a problem, smoke them in public without too many complications, and trip all night long with friends without problems. It doesnt matter where you do, you can always have freedom, especially here in the US. We are born with certain rights, and while drugs may not be legal here, privacy is assured in most cases. Other countries that lack drug laws may lack the freedom we desire. I dont want my house to get raided by a bunch of crazy men with guns.
I love my country, I just hate how they operate it. It was founded on great morals. I want to live in a community where we are enviro-friendly, and maintain civil liberties. While we can probably move and hide from the war on drugs forever, we cannot maintain a beautiful environment by running from the problem forever.
There will also be lots of work to be done. I am not saying you wouldnt do it, but just everyone know its there. I would much rather work for the community and myself than for a big corporation, being treated like a slave. Work is just a word, and its what you make it, right?
This is a wonderful idea, and not an original. As we speak, there are many communes operating, and others being started. While diffrent factors drive each individual group, I think most of the people stand for personal freedom. It takes a lot to get something like this going. You must give up a lot from this material world, and work your ass off to get started.
For those who will actually commit, god bless you. I think that most of the people will wait for the ball to get rolling first though. That is how it works. If you are really serious, may I suggest trying it out in an already established community first, to make sure you enjoy it, and learn a thing or two.
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Wysefool
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Re: The shroomery village. Please respond if you are interested. [Re: Fucknuckle]
#3517737 - 12/18/04 05:01 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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You seem to still think the plan is to do this in a place where drugs are illegal. The idea is "Drugs are illegal here? Okay, we'll move."
I have to admit, drugs would be one of the major reasons for me to do this, but not the drugs themselves as much as the cool people to do them with. I live in BC, I can get all the pot and mushrooms I want easily and probably never have to worry about getting in any trouble over it.
But take a look at the "Gatherings" forums, specifically the AZ gathering. Everybody there had a blast and were so disappointed when it had to come to an end. This would be like living a Shroomery gathering. I bet you'd get along better with your local Shroomerites than the neighbours wherever you live now....
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Re: The shroomery village. Please respond if you are interested. [Re: tak]
#3517742 - 12/18/04 05:02 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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The television will not be revolutionized
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Wysefool
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Re: The shroomery village. Please respond if you are interested. [Re: Wysefool]
#3517753 - 12/18/04 05:04 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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We could all just get apartments in the same building here in BC. The police don't really care what you do as long as you're not selling drugs or harming people.
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tak
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Re: The shroomery village. Please respond if you are interested. [Re: tak]
#3517757 - 12/18/04 05:05 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Also, vacation is vacation. Good things must come to an end, or else there will be no beginning. I agree it would be a blast, and we could maintain a healthy lifestyle while still having fun.
Running away from the problem isnt the answer though. Eventually the problem will go to war with your commune, and steal leadership. Then two of these problems will get mad at eachother and blow eachother up, and the whole world will die.
Lets solve the problem.
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Wysefool
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Re: The shroomery village. Please respond if you are interested. [Re: Wysefool]
#3517765 - 12/18/04 05:07 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Or if you're not into apartments we have lots of farmland too, lakeside cabins, mountain retreats.
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Wysefool
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Re: The shroomery village. Please respond if you are interested. [Re: Wysefool]
#3517770 - 12/18/04 05:08 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Move to BC and support the Marijuana Party fuckers...
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Fucknuckle
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Re: The shroomery village. Please respond if you are interested. [Re: Wysefool]
#3517780 - 12/18/04 05:10 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Wysefool said: You seem to still think the plan is to do this in a place where drugs are illegal. The idea is "Drugs are illegal here? Okay, we'll move."
I have to admit, drugs would be one of the major reasons for me to do this, but not the drugs themselves as much as the cool people to do them with. I live in BC, I can get all the pot and mushrooms I want easily and probably never have to worry about getting in any trouble over it.
But take a look at the "Gatherings" forums, specifically the AZ gathering. Everybody there had a blast and were so disappointed when it had to come to an end. This would be like living a Shroomery gathering. I bet you'd get along better with your local Shroomerites than the neighbours wherever you live now....
Ok then the idea is to have a never ending Gathering ? Well that will never work. Besides there is already a country with very lack Drug laws. The Netherlands.... Just get 20-100 people and buy a 300 unit apartment building there
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FreakQlibrium
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Re: The shroomery village. Please respond if you are interested. [Re: tak]
#3517787 - 12/18/04 05:12 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Having a wonderfull conversation about what would be a nice fantasy world is one thing, but getting stuff done is another. In order to get things done, there must be more than optomism. There need to be skeptics, and every single thing that happens must be questioned. This is entirely possible, but a big smile and a half assed plan will not cut it.
Hey man, i totally agree with you. My own plans are to move out to Victoria BC to live and work and i myself have no real need of a Walden's pond type of utopia but hey, that's just me If you guyz can really pull this all together then all the more power to you, seriously
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Droz
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Re: The shroomery village. Please respond if you are interested. [Re: FreakQlibrium]
#3517892 - 12/18/04 06:02 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wysefool - that is a great tshirt idea.
First and foremost, for starters I need to get a job and save up a little money so we can print the shirts.
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Droz
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Re: The shroomery village. Please respond if you are interested. [Re: Droz]
#3517996 - 12/18/04 06:43 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fucknuckle - that is not a bad idea.
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Re: The shroomery village. Please respond if you are interested. [Re: Droz]
#3518494 - 12/18/04 09:37 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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The best idea I think was presented was starting an online business, or multiple businesses, run by the shroomerites in the commune. The funds from the business would go to support the commune
Also, if we lived in BC or the Netherlands or somewhere, perhaps you could grow psychoactives as a side project and sell them for some extra cash, and free substances
Not even necessarily all illegal ones (in BC, that is), but perhaps legal drugs that are in high demand. If you are in the Netherlands it doesn't matter
If we got enough money from an online business to exist, we wouldn't need to farm fields all day, but could rather work to change the community and help the online drug movement
I think there are enough committed people here to pull this off, but a good beginning would be to realize a business that would get a good profit and that the members here would be committed to helping in a commune
And of course there'd be hashish and mushrooms galore?
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