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OfflineMycoJunkie
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Is White Millet or Mixed WBS better?
    #3510830 - 12/16/04 10:12 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

(As substrate that is)

Just curious, 'cause I went to the feed store and only bought white millet :frown: should have bought both so i could compare and contribute.


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Re: Is White Millet or Mixed WBS better? [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3510964 - 12/16/04 10:35 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

hmm with millet your going ot need some verm added to the mixture to hold water..from what i read here on the shroomery..but im pretty sure i read that straight millet wasn't that good..needed the verm to help it out..

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Re: Is White Millet or Mixed WBS better? [Re: djred]
    #3511012 - 12/16/04 10:43 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Would you say millet+verm is just as good as WBS? Can anybody confirm that?


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Re: Is White Millet or Mixed WBS better? [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3511037 - 12/16/04 10:47 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

i've heard white millet is more desirable than WBS... but is more expensive.


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Re: Is White Millet or Mixed WBS better? [Re: ZeroArmy27]
    #3511059 - 12/16/04 10:50 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Sweetness. Thx ZA27


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Re: Is White Millet or Mixed WBS better? [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3511065 - 12/16/04 10:52 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

wbs is just cheaper..im trying cracked corn as we speak i have me jars pc..i like wbs,its easy grows nicely i had hlf pints jars less then 2weeks mostly colonized..thats using spores ..


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Re: Is White Millet or Mixed WBS better? [Re: djred]
    #3511068 - 12/16/04 10:52 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

What % of verm should I use in my millet?


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Re: Is White Millet or Mixed WBS better? [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3511092 - 12/16/04 10:57 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Is White Millet or Mixed WBS better? [Re: ZeroArmy27]
    #3511175 - 12/16/04 11:14 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Do I grind the millet, or just some, or none?


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Re: Is White Millet or Mixed WBS better? [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3511201 - 12/16/04 11:18 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

not at all. read the instructions on the links i gave you, you use the whole grain. :smile:


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Re: Is White Millet or Mixed WBS better? [Re: ZeroArmy27]
    #3511319 - 12/16/04 11:48 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

WBS isn't nearly the best substrate, it's just the cheapest that works.


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Re: Is White Millet or Mixed WBS better? [Re: spliffmasta]
    #3511404 - 12/17/04 12:19 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Is WBS a lot faster than PF?

Also, do you really need to soak your WBS?


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Re: Is White Millet or Mixed WBS better? [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3511863 - 12/17/04 02:02 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

yes, it is faster than PF because you can do the shakey.

yes, soak your WBS.


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Re: Is White Millet or Mixed WBS better? [Re: ZeroArmy27]
    #3511925 - 12/17/04 02:14 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

IF YOU HAVE A PC, this is an easy blend of quasi/compost SYNTHETIC BULK SUBSTRATE, that BEATS WBS alone - HANDS DOWN.

Finely chopped ground aged /leached horse manure & presoaked finely chopped wheat straw, fortified with a small percentage of home ground BRF & some pre/soaked PC?ed WBS, as a delayed nutrient - source, with a little verm added -to increase its moisture retention capacity.

No exacting magic formula.
For instance, a 5 or 10 gallon size tote tub w/lid. Fill halfway with aged chopped (as fine as you can get it) horse manure. About a 20% portion of pre/soaked finely chopped wheat straw (the finer, the better). A couple pounds of home ground BRF. 3 or 4 quarts of pre/soaked PC?ed millet based WBS (PC?ed will not germinate). About a gallon size volume of vermiculite. Just toss it all in & mix well.

When you want to use it, take out however much you intend to use & add spring water until at field capacity (meaning - when you squeeze it - just a few drops of moisture - drip from it). Then PC the prepared mix (@ 15 psi 60 - 70 minutes) in a autoclave, turkey or tinfoil baking bag.

Allow to cool to room temp & spawn ASAP (sooner the better) @ about 15 to 20 % rate with colonized WBS.

Saran wrap top of container, poke some (10 or 15) pinholes in Saran wrap (for gas exchange), then cover container top with aluminum foil applied crumpled & loose over top & bent over edges a few inches (to keep it in darkness - but still allow some gas exchange).

That is a simple inexpensive bulk blend, that requires no science, or brain surgery to make. If you can find the ingredients (which isn?t tough, if you are tenacious & look for them). Think Feed & seed store for wheat straw & horse stables for horse poo.

Incubated & 80/85F & high rh, so it will not dehydrate. Once fully colonized, case with pasteurized or PC?ed 50/50 Verm - Coir mix , with sprinkle of finely crushed oyster shell (chicken grit - think feed store) to balance & maintain ph of casing mix.
PC'ed substrate mix is in a BAG & easy to protect.

WBS spawn is in 100% colonized quart jars, or autoclave filter/patch bag.

So - both are clean & good to go.

Use 12 quart / 11.4 liter STERILITE dishpan (or similar container).
($1.69 at Walmart)

Bake a few feet of rolled tinfoil in oven @ 350F - 10 - 15 minutes.

In as clean as possible surrounding conditions (cleaned Lysol?ed bathroom - G/B, or flow-hood).

Wear dust or surgical mask, cover hair, have clean hands, if using bathroom.

Spray tub with white VINIGAR
Then, spray with hydrogen peroxide (3% H202).
Wipe dry with sterile gauze pad.
This will KILL any contam on it.

Add sterilized tinfoil to tub BOTTOM & SIDES, if light shines through it.(so light doesn?t penetrate sides & bottom & cause bottom pinning - later).

Open Substrate bag & empty into lined container.

Open spawn jars - or bags & mix into substrate.

Pull out a couple feet Saran Wrap & spray with H202 (no need to wipe off).

Cover container TOP with Saran Wrap, H202 side down.

Pinhole Saran Wrap with alc swabbed needle.

Cover Saran Wrap with prepared & crumpled Tinfoil.

Bingo, you have a CLEAN & self contained substrate - ready to incubate.


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Re: Is White Millet or Mixed WBS better? [Re: MycoJunkie]
    #3512710 - 12/17/04 10:27 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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MycoJunkie said:
What % of verm should I use in my millet?




Personally I like to make a mix of grain for spawn material , milo, millet(different varieties Jap , Germ ,Red and White Prosos) ,and lately been tossing in some groats . You do not need to add verm to this mix .
From that you can inoc bulk subs , or just case the grain when it is 100% ready . You will not get some of the biggest mushies possible doing this(just casing the grain) , but none the less they will be happy .
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