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OfflineCatalysis
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And the First Iraq Post-War Oil Contracts go to...Canada?
    #3510472 - 12/16/04 08:58 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

http://money.cnn.com/2004/12/16/news/international/iraq_energy.reut/index.htm

Dammit, now what are the libs supposed to bitch about?  :tongue:

We need those contracts to go to haliburton if the democrats are to justify thier arguments.


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Re: And the First Iraq Post-War Oil Contracts go to...Canada? [Re: Catalysis]
    #3510486 - 12/16/04 09:01 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

oh cool did the war end? i missed that.


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Re: And the First Iraq Post-War Oil Contracts go to...Canada? [Re: Tao]
    #3510510 - 12/16/04 09:08 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

No, as opposed to pre-war, genius.


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Re: And the First Iraq Post-War Oil Contracts go to...Canada? [Re: Catalysis]
    #3510537 - 12/16/04 09:14 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

god youre right, im such an idiot to think that 'post-war' means 'after the war'. :doh:  so like 'post-WWII germany' refers to when hitler was in power?  :dumblol:


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Re: And the First Iraq Post-War Oil Contracts go to...Canada? [Re: Catalysis]
    #3510550 - 12/16/04 09:16 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

let's see, and those arguments would be:

1) no WMDs
2) no national security threat
3) 1000s of lives, 100billions of dollars
4) more terrorist converts than ever


yup, i can see how those arguments have been totally blown apart.


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Re: And the First Iraq Post-War Oil Contracts go to...Canada? [Re: phi1618]
    #3510590 - 12/16/04 09:24 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

LOL, im obviously referencing the arguments that claim the war is for oil profits and to supply Haliburton with rebuilding contracts...but you knew that.  :tongue:

taoteching, dude write an email to reuters or something if you want to argue the semantics of the fucking article.


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Re: And the First Iraq Post-War Oil Contracts go to...Canada? [Re: Catalysis]
    #3510625 - 12/16/04 09:32 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

hehe - you're right. I'm sorry 'bout trying to derail your thread like that - been spening too much time in OTD.  :blush:


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Re: And the First Iraq Post-War Oil Contracts go to...Canada? [Re: Catalysis]
    #3510640 - 12/16/04 09:35 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

The cost of the three projects combined has been estimated at $500 million. Their small size and scope has failed to attract the interest of major international oil companies.

Are you sure haliburton even place a bid for these contracts?


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Re: And the First Iraq Post-War Oil Contracts go to...Canada? [Re: phi1618]
    #3510643 - 12/16/04 09:36 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

heh, thats ok, i guess no one cares about this anyways.  :frown:

Im not good at making threads, i guess ill just stick to answering scientific posts.  :stoned:


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Re: And the First Iraq Post-War Oil Contracts go to...Canada? [Re: DeepDish]
    #3510674 - 12/16/04 09:43 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Well I know that the controversial Halliburton contracts only total about $900 mil or so. Thats for all of the reconstruction efforts and doesnt really have anything to do with the rights to oil fields and so forth as far as i know. Im just surprised that these oil contracts arent getting any attention, thats kind of why i posted this..to see what everyone else has heard and what they think.


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Re: And the First Iraq Post-War Oil Contracts go to...Canada? [Re: Catalysis]
    #3510719 - 12/16/04 09:54 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

the problem with the halliburton ones were that they were no-bid contracts, unlike these i take it.


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Re: And the First Iraq Post-War Oil Contracts go to...Canada? [Re: Catalysis]
    #3511167 - 12/16/04 11:12 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Halliburton can only handle so much work.


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Re: And the First Iraq Post-War Oil Contracts go to...Canada? [Re: Catalysis]
    #3511213 - 12/16/04 11:20 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

is this why we have a 9 cent drop now?

people sure do love explosives.


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Re: And the First Iraq Post-War Oil Contracts go to...Canada? [Re: kadakuda]
    #3511250 - 12/16/04 11:31 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Halliburton has been a no-bid contractor, and has enjoyed a close relationship with the military for many years. Nobody complained when they did the same thing in Kosovo.


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Re: And the First Iraq Post-War Oil Contracts go to...Canada? [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #3511487 - 12/17/04 12:48 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

The real story here is the machinery itself. This is for the construction of the pipelines and some refining machinery from what I can tell. This article doesn't say who is giving the contracts for the construction and who will own the machinery...the Iraqi gov. I assume but that isn't said.

So that arguement about war for oil is still valid; shortsighted neverthenless IMO. Who moves the oil, who refines it, who sells it and mostly who profits the most from the thing is the real issue. These things should be state-run so the profits go to the government of Iraq so it can rebuild itself but that would be a little too socialist for the US to setup. This whole thing reeks of neo-colonial privatization of a land's rescources but that has yet to be seen. My prediction is the MNC's will profit the most from this but only time will tell


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Re: And the First Iraq Post-War Oil Contracts go to...Canada? [Re: DirtMcgirt]
    #3512330 - 12/17/04 06:15 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

no the key is not profit, it is ensuring that the u.s. economy has access to oil to avoid an oil crisis like the 1970s.


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Re: And the First Iraq Post-War Oil Contracts go to...Canada? [Re: Tao]
    #3514825 - 12/17/04 08:33 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

The coalition took the oil that was stolen by Saddam Hussein, Kofi Annon and the evil French and gave it back to the Iraqi people, the rightful owners.


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Re: And the First Iraq Post-War Oil Contracts go to...Canada? [Re: Great_Satan]
    #3515104 - 12/17/04 10:32 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

make sure i just read it right.  are YOU siding with iraq on this one?  i dont believe it!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:


we need a good oil crises to get people heads to click and realise that tehre are much more reliable, renewable, cheaper resources than oil....im kind of amazed at how people are still using this product.


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Re: And the First Iraq Post-War Oil Contracts go to...Canada? [Re: kadakuda]
    #3515150 - 12/17/04 10:56 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I for one would be very interested in seeing a resource cheaper than oil for producing the equivalent amount of energy. Would you care to reveal the name of this resource?

The reason oil is used is because it is cheaper. Only a fool would consume 8X dollars worth of oil to produce Y joules of energy if he could instead consume 6X dollars worth of unobtainium (or whatever) to produce that same Y joules of energy.



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Re: And the First Iraq Post-War Oil Contracts go to...Canada? [Re: kadakuda]
    #3515161 - 12/17/04 11:01 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

kadakuda said:
we need a good oil crises to get people heads to click and realise that tehre are much more reliable, renewable, cheaper resources than oil....im kind of amazed at how people are still using this product.




Yeah, totally. There are SO many better resources we can use to power our lives....this world is fucked right now.


I don't think oil is the main reason behind any of this shit the govt. is doing. Unfortunately it goes deeper.


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