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How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us?
    #3510083 - 12/16/04 05:37 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

The answers have been slowly emerging since my first dose.
The mushrooms are devices to get groups of people's minds all on the same level so that our group consciousness creates a grid structure (such as the one you find here, the Shroomery). :3rd_eye:
Well this I've known for awhile... but the real question here is- what is the mushrooms' intent?
It's contributing to our evolutional leap of course, but is that all?
Do you think the mushroom has other intentions?
It's a question to ponder on our next trip!  :mushroom2:


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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: Adamist]
    #3510105 - 12/16/04 05:40 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

i think that they are jusyt a means to opening our eyes to the REAL reality around us without our personal 'blinders'. in moderation, they can be very helpful in figuring out what it is that we need to accomplish in our lives and in the lives of those in our realities


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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: Adamist]
    #3510119 - 12/16/04 05:41 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

"I am old, older than thought in your species, which is itself fifty times older than your history. Though I have been on earth for ages I am from the stars. My home is no one planet, for many worlds scattered through the shining disc of the galaxy have conditions which allow my spores an opportunity for life. The mushroom which you see is the part of my body given to sex thrills and sun bathing, my true body is a fine network of fibers growing through the soil. These networks may cover acres and may have far more connections that the number in a human brain. My mycelial network is nearly immortal, only the sudden toxification of a planet or the explosion of its parent star can wipe me out. By means impossible to explain because of certain misconceptions in your model of reality all my mycelial networks in the galaxy are in hyperlight communication across space and time. The mycelial body is as fragile as a spider's web but the collective hypermind and memory is a vast historical archive of the career of evolving intelligence on many worlds in our spiral star swarm. Space, you see, is a vast ocean to those hardy life forms that have the ability to reproduce from spores, for spores are covered with the hardest organic substance known. Across the aeons of time and space drift many spore-forming life-forms in suspended animation for millions of years until contact is made with a suitable environment. Few such species are minded, only myself and my recently evolved near relatives have achieved the hyper-communication mode and memory capacity that makes us leading members in the community of galactic intelligence. How the hypercommunication mode operates is a secret which will not be lightly given to man. But the means should be obvious: it is the occurrence of psilocybin and psilocin in the biosynthetic pathways of my living body that opens for me and my symbiots the vision screens to many worlds. You as an individual and man as a species are on the brink of the formation of a symbiotic relationship with my genetic material that will eventually carry humanity and earth into the galactic mainstream of the higher civilizations.

Since it is not easy for you to recognize other varieties of intelligence around you, your most advanced theories of politics and society have advanced only as far as the notion of collectivism. But beyond the cohesion of the members of a species into a single social organism there lie richer and even more baroque evolutionary possibilities. Symbiosis is one of these. Symbiosis is a relation of mutual dependence and positive benefits for both of the species involved. Symbiotic relationships between myself and civilized forms of higher animals have been established many times and in many places throughout the long ages of my development. These relationships have been mutually useful; within my memory is the knowledge of hyperlight drive ships and how to build them. I will trade this knowledge for a free ticket to new worlds around suns younger and more stable than your own. To secure an eternal existence down the long river of cosmic time I again and again offer this agreement to higher beings and thereby have spread throughout the galaxy over the long millennia. A mycelial network has no organs to move the world, no hands; but higher animals with manipulative abilities can become partners with the star knowledge within me and if they act in good faith, return both themselves and their humble mushroom teacher to the million worlds all citizens of our starswarm are heir to."


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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: blissedout]
    #3510245 - 12/16/04 06:07 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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i think that they are jusyt a means to opening our eyes to the REAL reality around us without our personal 'blinders'. in moderation, they can be very helpful in figuring out what it is that we need to accomplish in our lives and in the lives of those in our realities


Yes of course. But I'm talking about the purpose (or intention) of the mushrooms themselves. There is a plan that involves mushrooms and humanity that started long ago and is arriving at a grand climax in this age of information, which we have been flung into.


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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: tak]
    #3510251 - 12/16/04 06:09 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: Adamist]
    #3510493 - 12/16/04 07:03 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

well if we manifest ourselves as individuals perhaps the manifest as reality.

when we eat the mushroom and have the visions we are actually giving birth to the consciousness of the mushroom...

how's that sound?


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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: Adamist]
    #3510670 - 12/16/04 07:42 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

the mushroom just mushrooms ------- you ate mofo, why did you do it? in fact, don't answer that question, just remember to your utmost ability.


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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #3510906 - 12/16/04 08:25 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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when we eat the mushroom and have the visions we are actually giving birth to the consciousness of the mushroom...


I think that's definately on the right track. But lets think further down this track... Maybe the mushroom's millenia-spanning consciousness has some sort of plan for the human race. I can say without doubt that mushrooms change a person. Therfore they are doing something to us, this is observable.

I wonder if even a hundreds of years from now we will fully grasp it.


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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: Adamist]
    #3510958 - 12/16/04 08:35 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

The mushrooms aren't intelligent. There is no mushroom consciousness. That's just a part of your consciousness, it's part of you. Embrace it, don't place the importance of that state outside yourself, in the mushrooms. It's inside you. The mushrooms are simply a means of reaching that consciousness.

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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: Adamist]
    #3510995 - 12/16/04 08:40 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

the mollecular composition of the mushroom's flesh is only by random accident causing weird things in the human brain. mushroom's grow out of the decomposing plant waste of cows but we don't ask well if the mushrooms cause us to think like god that makes the shrooms god devices, so cows must be god????? that's crazy talk see. does oat, wheat and yeast have a special purpose in mind to make humans all slurry? also there's that toad species that gives off hallucinogenic fluid on its back but no one is asking well what is the toad's higher purpose for humanity, nah it's just a toad with a special defense mechanism....


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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: ]
    #3511058 - 12/16/04 08:50 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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Max Headroom said:
The mushrooms aren't intelligent. There is no mushroom consciousness. That's just a part of your consciousness, it's part of you. Embrace it, don't place the importance of that state outside yourself, in the mushrooms. It's inside you. The mushrooms are simply a means of reaching that consciousness.




I with this kind of approach.
what happens seems strange yet familiar.
we have been there before.
like a reconnection with what we are.


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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: ]
    #3511094 - 12/16/04 08:58 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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The mushrooms aren't intelligent.



Verifyably, no- meaning probably not. But I wasn't talking about intelligence anyways.
I was talking about consciousness, the state of being conscious.
We hardly have the tools to emperically "prove" much less dis-prove the idea that mushroom's are conscious.
I'd say if anything, the evidence points towards it.
Everything that is alive is conscious, in it's own way.
We may just not know how to recognize or detect something's level of awareness yet.
This doesn't mean it is not aware, or that it's awareness is restricted to our assumptions.  :smirk:
I personally believe the Earth itself has a consciousness, apart from us. It's just hard to dis-believe.:shrug:
I feel her breathing and communicating all the time.
I feel the same way about psychedelic mushrooms, particularly. Whether or not they have intentions or not, is what I am curious about.


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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: Adamist]
    #3511147 - 12/16/04 09:08 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Oh, I believe there's a mushroom consciousness, just like there's a rock consciousness, a planetary consciousness, a human consciousness. Oh yes. It just seemed to me that you were attributing the "state" that you reach from mushrooms to the mushroom consciousness, and not your own consciousness. In other words, there may be a level of collective mushroom consciousness that "knows" that humans are ingesting them, for a fun time or raising our awareness or whatever, but I don't think the mushroom consciousness "knows" what we really experience from ingesting them. I just don't think it has an agenda in that sense, which you seem to be inferring.

And the planetary consciousness, I've felt it. It's amazing. I think most of our lives we just take it for granted, like background noise that you hear all that time that you eventually tune it out. But when under the influence  :mushroom2: I've felt the vibrations, literally rising up from beneath me. :smile:

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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: ]
    #3511163 - 12/16/04 09:11 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't think the mushroom consciousness "knows" what we really experience from ingesting them.



But what if the experience IS their consciousness?


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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: Adamist]
    #3511185 - 12/16/04 09:15 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

also it makes sense that there is a consciousness beyond our shells and between all of us
what it is is bigger than shrooms
it is not owned by any things but it visits everything.


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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: Adamist]
    #3511204 - 12/16/04 09:19 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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Maybe the mushroom's millenia-spanning consciousness has some sort of plan for the human race. I can say without doubt that mushrooms change a person. Therfore they are doing something to us, this is observable.




well lets look at our conciousness as the planet they live on.
we change the face of this planet to sustain ourselves and in return the planets gets an increase in complexity.
the mushrooms sets up shop in our consiousness, it changes the scenery to acommodate itself and as a result our conciousness increases in complexity...

so the agenda could be to expand our minds so their conciousness hase a place to live in...


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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #3511207 - 12/16/04 09:19 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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there is a consciousness beyond our shells and between all of us
what it is is bigger than shrooms
it is not owned by any things but it visits everything.


 
Very well spoken my friend.
Sometimes I just wonder what will happen as larger and larger numbers of bipedal creatures dose themselves and combine themselves with cyberspace... I mean, this is some crazy shit.  :tongue2:


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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #3511214 - 12/16/04 09:20 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Mushrooms are not the only psychedelic thing that grow in nature. How can you say that THEY alone have some kind of purpose? What about mescaline or DMT?

There is no US and no Shrooms that exist seperately. Their spirit is a part of our minds and we are their spirit. Think about that.


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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #3511226 - 12/16/04 09:22 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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the agenda could be to expand our minds so their conciousness hase a place to live in...



Interesting idea...


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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: ]
    #3511291 - 12/16/04 09:42 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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Max Headroom said: it's part of you. Embrace it, don't place the importance of that state outside yourself, in the mushrooms. It's inside you. The mushrooms are simply a means of reaching that consciousness.




Yes..
Psilocybin is an analogue of DMT..there are several active tryptamines in the brain DMT being one of them.. I think the mushrooms are one of a number of applicable methods that can help us acheive these higher states of consciousness enabling one to experience and interact within (and without?) themselves on many different levels.. What you describe Adamist may very well be happening, I'm just not sure everybody in the world will have to dose mushrooms to get to wherever most of us are probably going to end up sooner or later anyway..

Perhaps the mushrooms are conscious..but in light of that, maybe everything can experience some degree of consciousness..perhaps some not without the ability to express that consciousness?

I like the grid analogy..and I think it hits the nail right on the head.. one of them atleast :smile:

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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: Adamist]
    #3511492 - 12/16/04 10:49 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Lately I have been noticing how everything connects in a trip. Hearing, thinking, seeing, feeling, etc. all get more connected and blend together.

People feel a sense of oneness with everything else and closeness to others and all of that. That could just be the connections being made between you and others, so that everything you experience of them is part of you.

Make a complete connection to everything and what do you get? Ego loss!

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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: Amber_Glow]
    #3511886 - 12/17/04 12:05 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

everyone who is disagreeing is just stating different sides of the same coin. You're all describing the same thing. you all agree.

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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: ekomstop]
    #3511947 - 12/17/04 12:17 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Carlos casteneda told me in a dream that mushroom have consciousness, so does peyote.



by the way, peyote does grow in nature, doesn it?

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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: tekramrepus]
    #3512737 - 12/17/04 08:34 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Personally I would think that virtually anything that stems from that intermingled network of conscious energy that is nature may posess some degreee consciousness of it's own..

Hell, measuring what appear to be conscious responses from plants can and has been experimented with and demonstrated scientifically on numerous occasions over the years.. Flashback

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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #3512765 - 12/17/04 08:44 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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There is no US and no Shrooms that exist seperately. Their spirit is a part of our minds and we are their spirit. Think about that.




well i was thinking of the mushrooms inclanation for symbiosys...
if it has a conciousness it might be of the same nature as the body
and have some need of sybiosis to exist...

but if all of reality is realy the manifestaion of conciousness...
then both we and the mushrooms are simply aspects of a conciouss interacting with eachother...
that would work for all manners of everything. in that model even self-delusion is no more or less 'real' then hitting your thumb with a hammer...

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Max Headroom said:
I'm just not sure everybody in the world will have to dose mushrooms to get to wherever most of us are probably going to end up sooner or later anyway..





well in that case the experiance can help prepare for the change...
it would be kinda poetic though...
i mean no saint should have anything to fear from it...
but sinners will have to go trough hell...
and we will finaly be home... (and the meek shall indeed inherit the earth...)


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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: Amber_Glow]
    #3512825 - 12/17/04 09:06 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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Lately I have been noticing how everything connects in a trip. Hearing, thinking, seeing, feeling, etc. all get more connected and blend together.

People feel a sense of oneness with everything else and closeness to others and all of that. That could just be the connections being made between you and others, so that everything you experience of them is part of you.

Make a complete connection to everything and what do you get? Ego loss!




this blending to gether is what I have been talking about.
I call it overlay or frame stacking.
I attribute it to slower fadeout of everything
so the frames get stacked up as they continue coming on, but fade more slowly (like traffic jamming on a mental highway unable to exit as quickly as per usual).

the ego loss IMO is inability to recognize and respond to the jumbled contexts when the frames are so stacked as to expose a universe inverted - cascaded - layered -collapsed or exploded or all of that. ego is so based on training and repetition, but in this chaotic or unpredictible universe one must step past that.


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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #3516586 - 12/18/04 08:14 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

i think the ego is a construct of the mind that we need to be able to deal with material reality.
when u disconnect yourself from material reality then the mind no longer needs an ego so it ceases to purpetuate what it does not need.

u speak of a matrix...
one might also consider the idea that reality itself is defined by
the limitations of our perception.
what if this matrix is more real then this world?


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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #3516659 - 12/18/04 08:58 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

vertigo this conversation has left your grasp. you actually just dumbed down what we are trying to say the person who started this thread realizes what he is and what the shroomery is and what you are but you do not realize what you are.

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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: curious4]
    #3516732 - 12/18/04 09:34 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Mushrooms do not have bank accounts, therefore t hey are not alive.


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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: question_for_joo]
    #3516963 - 12/18/04 11:21 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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the mollecular composition of the mushroom's flesh is only by random accident causing weird things in the human brain. mushroom's grow out of the decomposing plant waste of cows but we don't ask well if the mushrooms cause us to think like god that makes the shrooms god devices, so cows must be god????? that's crazy talk see. does oat, wheat and yeast have a special purpose in mind to make humans all slurry? also there's that toad species that gives off hallucinogenic fluid on its back but no one is asking well what is the toad's higher purpose for humanity, nah it's just a toad with a special defense mechanism....




I feel that every thing is just as sacred as the next. Every thing has a lesson to teach or a gift to give. If you look at it from the point of view that it was just a randome accident that our brains have the same nero receptor as the chemical in this toads venom, what would be so special about life? LIfe is the greatest gift we have ever gotten.

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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: curious4]
    #3517175 - 12/18/04 12:59 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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vertigo this conversation has left your grasp. you actually just dumbed down what we are trying to say the person who started this thread realizes what he is and what the shroomery is and what you are but you do not realize what you are.




u just dont understand poetry dude...


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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: ]
    #3517207 - 12/18/04 01:14 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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The mushrooms aren't intelligent.




Actually it has been proven that they are! Scientists built a maze and at one end put some food (I thin oat flakes) for the mushrooms, the mycelium consistently found the quickest route to the food.

Sorry I don't know where the specific article is but I'm sure you could find it.


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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: Wysefool]
    #3517716 - 12/18/04 04:54 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Intelligent and concerned about lowering their cholesterol!

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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: Adamist]
    #3519897 - 12/19/04 09:48 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

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The answers have been slowly emerging since my first dose.
The mushrooms are devices to get groups of people's minds all on the same level so that our group consciousness creates a grid structure (such as the one you find here, the Shroomery). :3rd_eye:
Well this I've known for awhile... but the real question here is- what is the mushrooms' intent?
It's contributing to our evolutional leap of course, but is that all?
Do you think the mushroom has other intentions?
It's a question to ponder on our next trip!  :mushroom2:




There is no intention, no meaning, save what we assign. Grid structures? Group consciousness? No. Mushrooms have psilocin which binds itself onto seritonin receptors. There is nothing outside of yourself that is altered. How, then, can there be this grid?


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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: tak]
    #3520224 - 12/19/04 11:35 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Root, if you haven't played Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri, I suggest you do so. You'll love the story behind Xenofungus and its Mind Worms.

I myself don't think mushrooms have any inherent spiritual dimension. All they do is change your mental state, much like alcohol or grass can. Since no can of beer has been proven to be conscious, I'll assume the same for a sativa plant and a mushroom.


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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: Alan Stone]
    #3520246 - 12/19/04 11:45 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

the grid is an extension of the vision process itself.
before perception
vision is colored splotches and the first order of variance is
progression of splotches
the second order is linearity or curved progression.
then we do the processing.
the grid images and much of what gets depicted by alex grey etc.
are from the cascade of these primary prepercepted visual experiences mixed with the percepted image contents, often with more than a single frame of reference (fractalization?). pure eye candy.
mushrooms empower the smear of consciousness this way, yum!


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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #3520460 - 12/19/04 12:56 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

oooo my first expierience with salvia was very interesting. A grid formed infront of me by which two lion/cat heads poped out at me alternating one would pop out and recied as the other would do the same. This grid was very interesting.

Has any one ever heard of the M theory?

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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #3520891 - 12/19/04 03:03 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

nope... do tell :smile:


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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #3522855 - 12/20/04 12:04 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Well, first, there was M ... then came N ... followed shortly by O and P. Z, as always, was last to the party and found only an empty keg. There was much feasting and bloodshed, and the townsfolk rejoiced. Rock on, Cleavland, rock on.


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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: Adamist]
    #3523110 - 12/20/04 01:03 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

This is what they have been doing, Banana Phone


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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: Zero7a1]
    #3523643 - 12/20/04 08:22 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Joy.
It`s about joy. About the joy of evolving, of finding a path out of the maze.
They like to accompany us and kinda push us in the right direction. Maybe by elevating us a bit so we can see where we have been running in circles.

And yes, in the end it`s all the same. But right now I go along with the illusion of separation, because it`s still helpful.
Like in that G`n R song - You can use your illusion, let it take you where it may....

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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: trinity7]
    #3523812 - 12/20/04 10:00 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Keys to the doors of perception, opening the pathways of mind, body, and spirit. Temporarily loosening the fetters of the flesh. One can either enter with fear and find thereselves on a most terribly unpleasent journey, or they can welcome it and embrace it and the four become as one.


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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #3523836 - 12/20/04 10:14 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Its like we are living on a membrane. The universe is this huge or even small membrane. And the way molecules bond forces us to be stuck on this membrane. Now there could be membranes right next to us that we cant even see, forget why... http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/gr/public/qg_ss.html

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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: Adamist]
    #3538971 - 12/24/04 11:22 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

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Adamist said:
The answers have been slowly emerging since my first dose.
The mushrooms are devices to get groups of people's minds all on the same level so that our group consciousness creates a grid structure (such as the one you find here, the Shroomery). :3rd_eye:
Well this I've known for awhile... but the real question here is- what is the mushrooms' intent?
It's contributing to our evolutional leap of course, but is that all?
Do you think the mushroom has other intentions?
It's a question to ponder on our next trip!  :mushroom2:





Chemists can make psilocin and psilocybin synthetically which is identical with the natural form.  Does this have an effect on the spiritual nature of the experience?  Maybe you're just fooling yourself.  The drug is just a key to what's inside you already.

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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: Pali_Gap]
    #3540393 - 12/24/04 07:59 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

well how do u know we are not all fooling ourselves by thinking we are individuals?


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Re: How many of you have figured out what it is that shrooms are doing to us? [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #3540626 - 12/24/04 09:26 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

You may think you are fooling yourself, but I just realize the concept of individualism is a useful frame of reference, cause otherwise it would be impossible to relate in society.

This reality is levels upon levels of stacking. However, all these stacks seem to be modifications and alterations of one single thing. Sort of like the ultimate archetype. I believe that anything can be proven when looked at from the right angle. Therefore all these things, like the mushrooms trying to help us evolve or whatever, are happening if and when you decide to acknowledge them. But lets not use a one year old's idea of permanence and go on and assume that all this is going on all the time. Therefore the web is infinite. This infinite thing is you. The mushrooms seem to be a reminder to us(spirit, God, the Universe) of what we really are. The answers will continue to emerge to you. The mystery only gets deeper and deeper.

Ultimately though, we seem to be a bunch of sounds or maybe categories bouncing off of each other endlessly, perpetuating ever stronger meaning with the more words/sounds that keep on coming. :crazy2:
Sounds crazy but if I try and wrestle with it I get burned. :frown:
Lately I have realized how utterly perfect it all is. :hellfire:


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