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silversoul7
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Re: what motivates you to act morally? [Re: deff]
#3483032 - 12/11/04 06:35 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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deff said: maybe the whole illusional concept of "ownership" is the root of the problem
Or not
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MarkostheGnostic
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Re: what motivates you to act morally? [Re: MrBump]
#3484241 - 12/11/04 10:18 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nothing "makes" me act morally, I choose to act morally. Acting morally is the measure of one's freedom from attachments, desires, or sin, depending on whether one prefers the Buddhist terms or the Christian term. I can choose to act legally, yet not be moral at the same time. Acting from fear of getting caught belongs to Kohlberg's lowest stage of moral development - that of a very young child - which is no morality at all. I choose to act morally because all of my thoughts and deeds are ruled by Compassion.
I am not legally married, and there is nothing legal anyway to prevent me from having sex with other women. I love women, and Miami is about as hypersexualized as it comes in the USA, and full of gorgeous women from everywhere in the world. If I 'got caught' by my Lady she told me that she would "be devastated" if I was unfaithful to her. It would also mean that I would have to lie, sneak and cheat. There would be no legal consequences, but the psychological, moral and spiritual repercussions would be drastic for me, my Lady, my 'conquest,' and whoever might be effected by her inappropriate actions. Things would never be the same between us again and she might leave me. My remaining ethical makeup would cause me to purchase a residence for my Lady, and that would effect me financially in a BIG way. Who knows how wide the ripples would spread? Then, finding another partner who even comes close to understanding and appreciating me, and one who feels the same and who is powerfully attractive to me, and vice versa, would be impossibly rare. So, there would be 'instant karma' because my Lady is SO intuitive that she would Know, confront me, and being a usually honest man, I would confess. I am also Compassionate to myelf you know.
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kadakuda
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Re: what motivates you to act morally? [Re: MrBump]
#3484579 - 12/11/04 11:34 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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my morals are probably different than everyone elses here as is everyones morals here different to each others.
so i go along with my morals caus eits how i think. i think most people do as well. and it takes a large or important somthing to alter ones actions to go against. ie. greed, defense, fear, hunger etc. i dont steal, kill, rape, abuse or anything. but if it came to me or you id pick me, then leading me to do what i feel needs done. on a side note i do willingly bust shit up, mainly of logging companies, as i really dissagree with what they are doing to inocent life. that is my morals. right or wrong.
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Frog
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Re: what motivates you to act morally? [Re: MrBump]
#3485735 - 12/12/04 10:38 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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thecornking said: so, why did i crumble in one situation and not in the next 5? what caused my breakdown, why do my desires to act immorally win out sometimes?
I've done a few things lately that I would never have thought I would do. I think, in my case, I let something slip.
You know how we have lines that we tell ourselves that we will never cross? One of my lines was, "I will never do anything unethical as an attorney." And then a small thing happened, that I chose to overlook, and then another, slightly bigger thing, and the next thing I knew, I had actually committed an ethical violation.
So, I let my line slip, but I didn't beat myself up too badly. I stopped the whole thing and moved the line back to where I had previously held it.
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redgreenvines
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Re: what motivates you to act morally? [Re: Frog]
#3485791 - 12/12/04 10:59 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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it is of value to be disgusted with the whole thing - professional sophistication permits interpretation - then circumstance and matters lead to an unethical cascade the disgust must be greater than the remorse. it distances it and fixes it in mind as avoidable.
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tak
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Re: what motivates you to act morally? [Re: redgreenvines]
#3486290 - 12/12/04 01:06 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Two wrongs do not make a right. Conflict breeds conflict. Unhappiness results in unhappiness. Every action we take has a reaction. I think negative actions usually result in more negative reactions. The same goes with good things. I think the world could easily snowball one way or another, and I am pushing for the better, but there are those blinded by the shiny things that cannot see.
I am not perfect, I try to be morally correct, but I still fuck up...alllllll the time. But I still give a fuck, and I see a potential future. That is why I try to act to what I consider to be "right" even when its so tempting to be wrong ;]
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kadakuda
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Re: what motivates you to act morally? [Re: tak]
#3486376 - 12/12/04 01:28 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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2 sides to everything. whats right to me may be dead wrong to you and vise versa. lets take this sites focus for example. drugs. people protesting say medical pot. to some this is a sin and very wrong, to others it is a way of easing pain and causing good. what im trying to say is that almost everything you or i do can be called right and wrong at teh same time. stay true to yourself and thats all i can think of to being a better person. you can also do wrongs things for teh right reason. ie stealign bread to feed a family type of situation. anyway my point is there is no line between right and wrong cause in order to have such you first need 100% agreement...which is possible but not liekly.
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Dimmy
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Re: what motivates you to act morally? [Re: kadakuda]
#3508272 - 12/16/04 10:32 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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if any of youz guyz wants to know the motivation to act morally from a psychological point of view (prolly the most acurate reasoning) check out what kohlberg had to say: http://students.usm.maine.edu/bmcpha61/Kohlberg_stages_of_morality.htm
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Re: what motivates you to act morally? [Re: MrBump]
#3508281 - 12/16/04 10:36 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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It makes me happy to act morally, in the long run.
I'm a hedonist. It's good because it makes me happy
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DoctorJ
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Re: what motivates you to act morally? [Re: MrBump]
#3508513 - 12/16/04 11:39 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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I would say that the applicability of moral behavior to the current situation is what motivates me to act morally. But I do acknowlege that in some situations, moral behavior is inapplicable.
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